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From: C Y <smustudent1@×××××.com>
To: gentoo-science@l.g.o
Cc: gentoo-dev@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-science] Scientific Gentoo reorg: the proposal
Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2006 21:26:50
Message-Id: 20060625212325.59317.qmail@web31706.mail.mud.yahoo.com
In Reply to: [gentoo-science] Scientific Gentoo reorg: the proposal by George Shapovalov
1 --- George Shapovalov <george@g.o> wrote:
2
3 > sci-mathematics: 34
4 > Ok size. There were calls to split it into symbolic and numeric, also
5 > -proof was suggested (but I understand the packages for that one are
6 > not in the tree yet). 3-tier categories might be nice here :) (as in
7 > sci-math-symbolic, sci-math-numeric..). devs:
8 > plasmaroo, agriffis?, mattam, cryos, ribosome?, markusle, spock,
9 > phosphan
10
11 As to the sci-proof suggestion, I have discussed ebuilds with the
12 Isabelle mailing list and they do not seem to be in favor of it.
13 Apparently the work flow for that tool is such that they prefer to
14 maintain everything in a user level directory, as a monolithic whole.
15 I don't know how other projects (HOL, etc.) feel about it.
16
17 > sci-visualization: 20
18 > Ok size, may be combined with -calculators? or -math? (herding, if it
19 > makes sense, category should stay), devs:
20 > markusle, phosphan, ribosome, cryos, kugelfang, latexer?, j4rg0n?,
21 > corsair?, spyderous
22
23 I'd say keep this category, personally.
24
25 > Furthere,
26 > sci-cad was suggested and it looks like there may be a critical mass
27 > of > 5 packages, but more planning is necessary on this one..
28
29 I was able to kludge together a functional brl-cad ebuild, and I know
30 qcad has been in there for ages. Most of the other options will need
31 ebuilds written. Whoever writes the one for SALOME will need to be
32 good.
33
34 > There were talks about creating sci-physics category, however I
35 > cannot find traces of that atm (or was it on irc?). If there really
36 > are apps for sci-physics it can start combined with sci-astronomy (or
37 > not, need a list of packages..)
38
39 Physics packages (not all of which may be in gentoo at the moment)
40
41 mpb (mit photonic bands - does have ebuild)
42
43 root (in sci-libs, maybe it should stay there?)
44 geant4 http://geant4.web.cern.ch/geant4/ (it can be installed on Gentoo
45 but no ebuild yet)
46 (other stuff from http://lcgapp.cern.ch/project/ is probably of
47 interest)
48
49 http://fermitools.fnal.gov/abstracts/transport/abstract.html
50 http://fermitools.fnal.gov/abstracts/turtle/abstract.html
51
52 There are other tools of interest here:
53 http://fermitools.fnal.gov/categories/index.html but I suspect many of
54 them have a wider application that just physics
55
56 Other possibilities:
57 http://www.freehep.org/ - probably a lot that might be included here.
58 http://wwwasd.web.cern.ch/wwwasd/paw/
59
60 The license is a bit wonky but there is this:
61 http://www.physics.cornell.edu/sss/
62
63 Doubtless there are others I am not familiar with. Outside of the HEP
64 world there is less that is free, but oh well.
65
66 > Any comments on the structure? Also, while sci-xxx is a "natural"
67 > name for the
68 > category (considering our present layout) it is somewhat cumbersome
69 > for the
70 > herd. I guess sci- part may be dropped, then, should the rest stay
71 > spelled
72 > out or people would prefere shortcuts, like math for mathematics,
73 > etc?
74
75 Personally I would rather keep the sci- prefix, just to keep all the
76 science related software alphabetically together, but I know that's a
77 silly reason. Out of curosity, how is it cumbersome for the herd?
78
79 Cheers,
80 CY
81
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