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From: "Marcus D. Hanwell" <cryos@g.o>
To: gentoo-science@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-science] Re: Scientific herd leadership
Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2005 09:06:18
Message-Id: 200508221005.24280.cryos@gentoo.org
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-science] Re: Scientific herd leadership by C Y
1 On Monday 22 August 2005 08:48, C Y wrote:
2 > Perhaps we could have a "support team" behind someone with official
3 > Gentoo developer status - people could point out significant ebuilds
4 > with most logic in place to the developer, help work out quirks in the
5 > programs/ebuilds, and generally speed things up? Certainly the
6 > developer would bear final responsibility but this way those of us with
7 > five hours every month or so could help out too, particularly for
8 > specialty packages. (BTY, if some genius could figure out brl-cad I
9 > would be grateful - it's going to take me a year at this point :-/.)
10
11 I was wondering myself if some people in here might be receptive to the idea
12 of a support team, much like the arch testers we have for the amd64 porting
13 team. It often leads on to people becoming devs, but is a great way to help
14 out when you can.
15
16 Tony Murray is filling that kind of role unofficially with all the work he
17 puts into the boinc and setiathome ebuilds, whilst I review, test, improve
18 and commit them once they are up to standard. I also have good contact with
19 the quickplot developer who has integrated my patches upstream and helped
20 significantly with the ebuilds for that package.
21
22 I think these relationships are important, and I personally nurture them as
23 much as possible. Many scientific packages are very involved and having
24 people help test and work out problems can significantly increase our
25 efficiency as a team.
26 >
27 > There are a fair number of at least partial ebuilds for useful
28 > scientific software stuck in bugzilla - brl-cad and acl2 come
29 > immediately to mind, and I know there are others. Plus a fair number
30 > that don't have ebuilds where it would be useful to have them. Gentoo
31 > is alreay one of the best for scientific software, due to compiling
32 > things being easy and our ebuild pool, but we could definitely do
33 > better.
34
35 The problem comes down to manpower and a need to recruit some more people to
36 the team. Having a support team similar to the arch testers could certainly
37 help in our case if those people were not ready to become devs/didn't have
38 the time. Once a package has been committed they would also need to help with
39 version bumps and fixing bugs with the new packages ideally.
40 >
41 > My machine is probably a poor test machine - what gentoo environment
42 > would we need to maintain?
43
44 Just an up to date Gentoo install is fine. If you are testing some more
45 experimental stuff (I test new baselayout, glibc, gcc and other core stuff
46 sometimes) then a chroot might also be adviseable. Scientific apps just
47 require an up to date system.
48
49 Thanks,
50
51 Marcus
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