Gentoo Archives: gentoo-science

From: "Sébastien Fabbro" <bicatali@g.o>
To: gentoo-science@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-science] sci team help
Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2007 15:57:36
Message-Id: 1192547003.5412.138.camel@zeca
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-science] sci team help by "M. Edward (Ed) Borasky"
1 On Tue, 2007-10-16 at 06:57 -0700, M. Edward (Ed) Borasky wrote:
2
3 > 1. I'm not sure the idea of integrating, say, R packages, into Portage
4 > is a good one. Debian has a lot of R packages in their repository, but
5 > that's mainly because one developer, Dirk Eddelbuettel, took that on as
6 > a personal mission. For that matter, I don't know that Portage really
7 > *needs* to have "tight" integration with any other package management
8 > systems. In other words, does a CPAN Perl package really need to be
9 > wrapped in an ebuild, or could a Gentoo user just as easily install CPAN
10 > packages directly? The same goes for Ruby gems -- it's only marginally
11 > more convenient for a Rubyist to have gems in Portage, and you'll never
12 > have them *all. If you have the developer resources, sure, why not, but
13 > aren't there better things the developers could be doing? In any event,
14 > I use R and its packages heavily and don't see the need to "emerge
15 > Rcmdr" -- R's native package management system is fine. So is Ruby's
16 > "rubygems" package management system.
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18 Not saying 100 R packages => 100 ebuilds, but passing proper flags,
19 building deps and all could be wrapped in a nice gentoo way (btw, is
20 paludis doing this?). Anyway this was just a project idea in a todo list
21 and should go to another thread, or the corresponding bug.
22
23 > 2. Don't be afraid to kick something out of the distro if nobody wants
24 > to maintain it. It's no big deal to install a package from upstream
25 > source. As far as I'm concerned, in most cases the only difference is
26 > that it ends up in /usr/local instead of in /usr and I have to manually
27 > load the dependencies.
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29 This is also an area where we could use some help. Do you feel any
30 packages are unmaintained or could be removed? If yes, file a bug, say
31 your word on the wiki, ...
32
33 --
34 Sébastien

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