Gentoo Archives: gentoo-scm

From: Ryan Hill <dirtyepic@g.o>
To: gentoo-scm@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-scm] Splitting gentoo-x86 repository for easier consumption
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2009 18:48:21
Message-Id: 20090411124958.5c14c46c@halo.dirtyepic.sk.ca
In Reply to: [gentoo-scm] Splitting gentoo-x86 repository for easier consumption by Maciej Mrozowski
1 On Sat, 11 Apr 2009 14:40:27 +0200
2 Maciej Mrozowski <reavertm@××××××.fm> wrote:
3
4 > Let's look at tree - one thing can be said about each package - it belongs to
5 > some herd or (doesn't, and it's with status maintainer wanted or maintained by
6 > individual developers).
7 > So creating separate repository for each herd is the most obvious (and naive)
8 > idea.
9
10 While this may seem like a good idea for those projects and herds that are
11 well defined, well-oiled machines, I can count the number of these projects
12 in Gentoo on one hand.
13
14 > Pros are the following:
15 > - project members taking care of some herd (or belonging to herd?) receive
16 > (and have access) (only) to repository they are interested in, resulting in
17 > smaller pulls/pushes
18
19 ...and isolating them from the rest of the tree, as well as the rest of
20 developers from them.
21
22 > - some level of isolation - gives possibility to restrict access (for example:
23 > "only toolchain and arch teams allowed here")
24
25 This is counter to the ideals behind Gentoo, blah blah. In reality, if
26 someone screws up toolchain stuff, they only do it once.
27
28 > - profile can be (should be actually) separated in another repository and
29 > developed easier
30
31 Repositories, when split, are best split into atomic units. Separating
32 profiles from packages, given their dependence on each other, is a
33 non-starter.
34
35 I'm not sure what we'd do with eclasses either. Obviously they
36 can't be split into herds, but they need to be updated with the ebuilds
37 themselves.
38
39 In Gentoo development the atomic unit is the repo itself, for better or worse.
40
41 > Some cons:
42 > - projects are now more dependant on other projects and its responsiveness,
43 > unless access is granted to all repositories for every developer
44
45 Which is one of the biggest problems we already have IMHO.
46
47 > - not settled yet what to do with orphaned/proxy maintained packages and herd-
48 > switching
49
50 We have ~800 maintainer-needed packages right now. We have multitudes more
51 that belong to herds with no real people in them, or have unresponsive
52 maintainers. Cutting them off from the rest of the tree by making them
53 harder to get to isn't going to improve things.
54
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56
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58 gcc-porting, by design, by neglect
59 treecleaner, for a fact or just for effect
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