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2010/10/28 Mateusz Arkadiusz Mierzwinski <mateuszmierzwinski@×××××.com> |
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> 2010/10/28 Pavel Labushev <p.labushev@×××××.com> |
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> > I didn't test that patch; even if it's incorrect, bugreport is not about |
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>> > a patch. It's about a security issue. |
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>> Well, the bug report is about the patch. There's another bug about the |
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>> issues with LD_AUDIT: https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=341755 |
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> "The beat goes on! Nothings wrong!...". Tell me - If app have bug - like |
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> "calc" ;) app in KDE - who uses it? Developers will not patch app because |
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> it's less then 1% users that use it in KDE? I don't think so. Even if it's |
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> lower priority patch i think it should be included in mainstream. It's like |
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> buying a car, that closes by remote but 1% of users will still use key for |
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> central lock - ups! None included? Service: "Sorry! That's not mainstream |
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> ;). You must install it by Yourself" :]. |
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>> > This proof-of-concept exploit still works in gentoo (amd64 stable at |
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>> least, |
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>> > even hardened!), because some dangerous variables are not filtered out. |
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>> It still works because glibc-2.11.2-r2 with the fix is still keyworded |
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>> (yeah, epic fail goes on). |
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> Let's keyword everything, push "da blocks, man!" on every package and this |
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> will be most secured distro :>. Great Job! :) |
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> I think, that Gentoo Devs forget about something more important in today's |
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> world - USABILITY. The "normal" user without "extra abilities" will not |
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> Patch anything because he don't even know what PATCH is. Developers have |
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> those users TOO on Gentoo. This is strenght of Mandriva, Debian-like distros |
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> (Ubuntu line specialy). Users click and software works, it upgrades and if |
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> bug is get the patch is downloaded with latest update. Tell mister "Marian" |
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> from accounting that he must PATCH something. I like that kind of face look |
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> of that people after saying that Junk -> :] "Yeah! Sure... What icon should |
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> I press in My "K" Menu?". |
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LOL, I would like to know "Marian" in person and his habbits of upgrading |
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OOcalc. |
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I wonder how he edit his /etc/make.conf, hehe, with windows edit?! :-P |
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Seriously, Gentoo is a system for "Marian" if and only if his friend |
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"SuperUser" keep his system running. |
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And by the same token, go to your next desk friend who is a computer |
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scientist and ask him to install gentoo. (GENGOO WHAT???!!! SOUNDS LIKE A |
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GOOD BUNGEE CORD ;-) |
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Gentoo is for us, not for them... |
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Devs should include patches in mainstream even if it's less prior patch. |
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> Why? Because it takes about 2-10 (knowledge level) minutes extra and drops |
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> discussions like this one. 10 Minutes extra VS silence - i think it's fair |
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> :). |
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> -- |
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> Mateusz Mierzwiński |
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> Bluebox Software [PL] |
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> Neural Networks, Artificial Perception and Artificial Intelligence projects |
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> coordinator |
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