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From: Daniel Privratsky <dsokrates@××××××.cz>
To: gentoo-security@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-security] firewall suggestions?
Date: Thu, 08 Jan 2004 18:10:14
Message-Id: 3FFD9A08.6010805@seznam.cz
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-security] firewall suggestions? by Oliver Schad
1 Wrong.
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3 1) If you don't receive "destination unreachable" packet, you know
4 nothing about the target host yet. This is not perfect-network world.
5 There can be other fw/router anywhere in the way, killing this type of
6 icmp traffic.
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8 2) It slows scans a lot. You can of course do scannig in parallel, but
9 don't be surprised, when you find yourself killed with no mercy by IDS,
10 after matching SYN threshold. 1000+ syns/sec form IP adress to monitored
11 system is sure ban.
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13 Daniel Privratsky
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17 Oliver Schad wrote:
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19 > Am Mittwoch, 7. Januar 2004 23:05 schrieb mir Mark Hurst:
20 >
21 >>It's much better to have a firewall than just have ports not open. Even
22 >>though a port is not open it can reveal the presence of your machine by
23 >>the manner in which the IP stack responds to a connection attempt.
24 >>Using a firewall you can drop those packets, making all your closed
25 >>ports invisible.
26 >
27 >
28 > If you want to invisible, the next router to you have to send an ICMP
29 > packet with "host unreachable". If you say nothing anybody with some
30 > brain between his ears knows there is a very intelligent guy that want to
31 > be invisible.
32 >
33 > mfg
34 > Oli
35 >
36 > --
37 > gentoo-security@g.o mailing list
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Re: [gentoo-security] firewall suggestions? Alexander Schreiber <als@××××××××××××.de>
Re: [gentoo-security] firewall suggestions? Oliver Schad <o.schad@×××.de>