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From: Richard Freeman <rich0@g.o>
To: gentoo-security@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-security] Re: Kernel Security Update Target Delay?
Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2010 17:04:57
Message-Id: 4CBB27A2.3090209@gentoo.org
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-security] Re: Kernel Security Update Target Delay? by Alex Legler
1 On 10/17/2010 11:51 AM, Alex Legler wrote:
2 > Excerpts from Israel G. Lugo's message of Sun Oct 17 15:59:15 +0200 2010:
3 >> Your own
4 >> vulnerability treatment policy ranks it as A1 level, and correctly so in
5 >> my opinion.
6 >>
7 >
8 > Besides the fact that the VTP is still not applicable to Kernel
9 > packages, we now do seem to rank things correctly? Can you please make
10 > up your mind?
11
12 The VTP States:
13
14 Currently kernels are not covered by the GLSA release process.
15 Vulnerabilities must still be reported and will be fixed, but no GLSA
16 will be issued when everything is solved.
17
18 To me that sounds like we still do everything the same, but we don't
19 publish a GLSA when we're done. It is then suggested that the reason
20 for the policy is that we have shortcomings in our current tools.
21
22 It does not sound to me like we just take care of kernel root exploits
23 whenever we get around to it, as a matter of policy.
24
25 If we do not officially support security updates on the kernel the
26 webpage should be updated to explicitly state so. Of course, it would
27 be better to actually have a sane security policy on the kernel, even if
28 we can't make official GLSAs. Also, tool problems or not there is no
29 reason we couldn't grant somebody rights to post to the GLSA mailing
30 list so that they could send out manual notifications when serious
31 kernel vulnerabilities are fixed.
32
33 As it stands, a new gentoo-sources version was fixed, but the vulnerable
34 versions remain in portage and are not masked, so even users who run
35 emerge world often might not have realized that the need to upgrade
36 their kernels (as in build and install them and not just have the
37 sources lying around). I know I usually take my time on kernel upgrades
38 waiting for opportune moments, unless there is a serious issue with the
39 version I'm running.
40
41 This isn't about blame-finding/etc. It would be nice to look at the
42 overall process going forward and try to improve it. That starts by
43 admitting that next time we'd like to do better.
44
45 Rich