On 2003-12-16 at 15:25:09, James Dennis <james@...> wrote:
> This whole discussion is getting ridiculous. Gentoo is clearly looking 
> to make a more secure _default_ install. You only have to su everytime 
> if you're too lazy to use chmod... which was already mentioned... so 
> how about we agree it's moot?
> -James

The point was traceroute is _not_ installed by default. An admin desiring to
install this software, in my case, on several hundred servers, I don't want
to have to chmod traceroute on all those boxes, everytime there's an update
to traceoute because of what could be deemed a poor choice for security. 

I don't see where the discussion has gotten moot or off-track. If enough of
the community wants it back the way it was, I assume Gentoo developers will
respond as such.

-d