Gentoo Archives: gentoo-server

From: Andrew Cowie <andrew@×××××××××××××××××××.com>
To: gentoo-server@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-server] Stable portage tree (again)
Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2006 04:28:45
Message-Id: 1157601915.30661.28.camel@procyon.operationaldynamics.com
In Reply to: [gentoo-server] Stable portage tree (again) by "José González Gómez"
1 José,
2
3 My compliments on your analysis. Based on my experience with various
4 clients and also having spoken at various Gentoo events worldwide you
5 have certainly summarized the essence of best-practice Gentoo systems
6 administration.
7
8 On Wed, 2006-09-06 at 10:21 +0200, José González Gómez wrote:
9 > some people perceive the addition per se as a source of instability,
10 > but I think this comes from the "emerge -uDN world" kind of sys
11 > admining. As long as you stick with a stable set of versions for your
12 > packages ... you would have a slowly changing system you can have
13 > under control. ... Or even better, you may gradually update your
14 > applications to control the upgrade pace. In addition, what's stable
15 > for a given admin or installation may be completely broken for some
16 > other admin or installation
17
18 Yes, exactly.
19
20 > Then you could take your own informed decission before ever trying to
21 > upgrade to a new version in your test environment (you have one, don't
22 > you?)
23
24 This makes perfect sense when you consider than anyone who acts to roll
25 out systems configured to their own local specification is adopting the
26 responsibility of being a distribution vendor themselves.
27
28 In that light, the only question that matters in the context of large
29 installation systems administration is "how well does a given vendor
30 {distro} support me in my task of rolling out what I choose to roll
31 out?"
32
33 > I would like to make a proposal here. What if no longer mantained
34 > ebuilds were marked but not deleted? Let's say you have _x86 in
35 > KEYWORDS for ebuilds/packages no longer maintained
36
37 In our view that would be an excellent approach - it would leverage the
38 power of the existing centralized mainline portage tree (without needing
39 separate overlays, etc etc) while removing the bulk of the bugs
40 associated with disappearing ebuilds.
41
42 Again, my compliments.
43
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