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Yes if libconf is the project I read about some time ago that aims to |
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bring a xml config file standard to us all. |
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It sure would make life easier when you need to write scripts to update |
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confs |
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-----Original Message----- |
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From: Patrick Lauer [mailto:patrick@g.o] |
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Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2006 2:18 PM |
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To: gentoo-server@l.g.o |
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Subject: RE: [gentoo-server] Ideas for a server profile? |
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On Tue, 2006-02-28 at 13:47 +0200, Jean Blignaut wrote: |
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> I don't see why you'd want to have a dhcp client on a server but any |
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> way... |
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"Just in case" ... I've been almost locked out of machines because they |
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lacked a dhcp client. |
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I'm not after a strictly-server-only profile, and having dhcp available |
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by default "makes sense"(tm) |
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> How about the profile contains minimal packages like say no |
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> productivity/office packages, no X like you said no games (besides |
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maybe |
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> game servers) basicly clear out every thing that doesn't make sence on |
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a |
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> server. |
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Basically an independent overlay / portage tree with only minimal |
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package sets available? |
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That is difficult because then not all packages are available --> more |
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overlay fudgery |
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> A great Idea would be some thing like virtual packages with flexible |
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use |
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> flags that represent use full combinations of packages on production |
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> servers. What I'm getting at is this: There are some greate Howto this |
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> with that and that articles in the gentoo sysadmin docs as well as |
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> www.gentoo-wiki.com why not create say -- a virtual_postfix package |
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with |
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> appropriate use flags to combine say your choice of imap/pop server, |
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db |
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> backend, authentication system, antivirus and spamfilters -- all in |
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one |
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> package! |
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Ah, meta-packages ... lots of work, but that'd be really cool. |
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> It might even be better if such a packages default use flags are so |
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use |
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> full that most would use it - a sort of standard. |
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How do you decide that? You can only do a survey and ask for useflags, |
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then hope people don't have to change too much ... |
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> a nother issue I find very taxing is scanning thru config files |
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> during/after updates to try catch the configs that would break my |
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setup. |
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> Can't we have some means to check whether or not the admin has ever |
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> edited a config file by hand and if so be more don't auto update but |
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if |
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> so do. |
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In theory yes, but I'm not sure if that is reliable. Config managment is |
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tricky on gentoo and should be extended. |
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> I guess I'm getting at a more complex config management system. |
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> It might also have helped if config files where more standard - say if |
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> they all used some vaguely similar xml format |
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Like, say, libconf? |
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Patrick |
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-- |
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Stand still, and let the rest of the universe move |
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