Re: [gentoo-server] grub ebuild

[Mark Rudholm]

Andrew Gaffney wrote:
> Mark Rudholm wrote:
>
>> Jeremy Brake wrote:
>>
>>> Is it just my imagination, or does bind keep upgrading and downgrading
>>> in portage?  its getting irritating.
>
>
> This a "bug" in portage that has been known about for a long time.
> Fixing it would take at least a partial rewrite of the dep resolver.
> Basically, there is a newer version of some package that was installed
> as a dependency, but another package DEPENDs on a version of the first
> package less than the newest. Portage doesn't know not to upgrade that
> 2nd package, even though an older version is required by some other
> package.
>
>> I wasn't very amused with the breaking of Apache conf files, either.
>> That's poor package mainatenanceship.
>
>
> The apache config files weren't *broken*. They were fixed. They are now
> a whole heck of a lot closer to the way a vanilla apache setup has them.
> There was talk of that happening over a year before it happened. There
> was a warning that went out to a few mailing lists a week before the new
> apache went stable.

I realize this, of course.  It was "broken" to begin with.
Either way, my point stands.

>> I was installing Gentoo on a new desktop system they gave me at work
>> last night and was surprised to find that Stage 1 and Stage 2 installs
>> are
>> no longer supported and that users are instructed not to do them.
>
>
> The reason they are no longer *officially* supported is because many
> users would not read the documentation, do things wrong, and file bugs.
> This happened a *lot*. The stage 1 and 2 install instructions were
> removed from the handbook to cut down on the flood of invalid bugs.
>
> There is nothing stopping you from doing a stage 1 or 2 install. Just
> don't expect help if it breaks.

I think I can handle it.
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