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On Monday 06 September 2004 22:52, Andrew Gaffney wrote: |
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> Mark Rudholm wrote: |
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> > On Monday 06 September 2004 21:29, Andrew Gaffney wrote: |
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> >>Mark Rudholm wrote: |
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> >>>Is it just me, or is Portage getting out of date in a lot of areas. |
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> >>>I keep finding that it is months out of date on software that I use. |
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> >>>For example, OpenVPN's latest stable release, v1.6.0 came out on May 9, |
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> >>>yet portage is still at 1.5.0-r1 (masked or not). The 2.0_beta releases |
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> >>>are nowhere to be found. KDE 3.3 is also not masked. Postfix 2.1 took |
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> >>> a while to show up in Portage... |
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> >>> |
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> >>>I also noticed that the GWN wasn't posted to the Gentoo website last |
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> >>> week (or this). |
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> >>> |
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> >>>Should I be concerned? |
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> >> |
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> >>Nope, not at all. Just remember that all of the Gentoo developers are |
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> >>volunteers. They work on this stuff in their spare time. If you want a |
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> >>newer version of a particular program in the portage tree, write an |
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> >> ebuild yourself and submit it via bugs.gentoo.org. |
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> > |
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> > OK, well, we can skip the OSS primer, I think we all know what the |
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> > community is about and how it works. What I'm concerned about is that |
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> > Portage seems to be slipping, and that not enough people/developers are |
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> > contributing new ebuilds. To draw an analogy, I can vote, but that |
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> > doesn't really solve the problem of low voter turnout. FreeBSD's Ports |
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> > is also user-maintained and it seems far more current. Has something |
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> > changed? It didn't seem to be so out of date before. |
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> The size of the portage tree is growing faster than the number of devs that |
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> are around to maintain it. When I first started using Gentoo in February |
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> 2003, there were only ~30,000 files in the Portage tree. Currently, there |
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> are 80,000+ files. I could be wrong, but I don't believe there has been a |
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> 3x jump in developers to go along with that. Volunteer your own time and |
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> become a developer. |
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For the record, since it seems I haven't yet made myself clear, this isn't a |
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complaint, this is an inquiry. There is absolutely no need for anyone to get |
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defensive. If we really think only "developers" get to ask questions about |
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the state of a distro, well, then it's already time to move on. |
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-Mark |
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