Re: [gentoo-server] several semi-related questions

[Ben Munat]

So, is everyone off enjoying the spring weather (last days of fall for anyone down under) 
or did I just ask too many questions?

Well, I cleaned up the webapp cruft, and now running "equery depends apache" gives me:

[ Searching for packages depending on net-www/apache... ]
dev-php/mod_php-4.3.11
dev-util/subversion-1.1.3
net-mail/vqadmin-2.3.6
net-mail/qmailadmin-1.2.1

So, as per the apache migration doc, I ran:

  "emerge -pvu --deep apache mod_php subversion vqadmin qmailadmin"

and I get:

These are the packages that I would merge, in order:

Calculating dependencies ...done!
[ebuild     U ] sys-devel/gettext-0.14.1-r1 [0.14.1] -emacs +nls 6,397 kB
[ebuild     U ] dev-lang/tcl-8.4.9 [8.4.6] -threads 3,414 kB
[ebuild     U ] sys-process/cronbase-0.3.2 [0.3.1] 0 kB
[ebuild     U ] dev-libs/openssl-0.9.7e-r1 [0.9.7d-r1] -bindist -debug -emacs -test 5,105 kB
[ebuild     U ] app-crypt/hashalot-0.3 [0.1.0] 78 kB
[ebuild     U ] sys-devel/automake-1.7.9-r1 [1.7.9] 564 kB
[ebuild     U ] sys-apps/miscfiles-1.4.2 [1.3-r1] -minimal 1,489 kB
[ebuild     U ] sys-libs/pam-0.77-r6 [0.77-r1] +berkdb -debug -pwdb (-selinux) 3,552 kB
[ebuild     U ] media-libs/freetype-2.1.9-r1 [2.1.5-r1] -bindist -debug +doc +zlib 1,183 kB
[ebuild     U ] x11-misc/ttmkfdir-3.0.9-r2 [3.0.9-r1] -debug 19 kB
[ebuild     U ] media-libs/fontconfig-2.2.3 [2.2.2] 732 kB
[ebuild     U ] x11-base/xorg-x11-6.8.2-r1 [4.3.0-r7] -3dfx -3dnow -bitmap-fonts -cjk 
-debug -dlloader -dmx +doc -font-server -hardened -insecure-drivers +ipv6 -minimal +mmx 
+nls -opengl +pam -sdk -sse -static -truetype-fonts -type1-fonts (-uclibc) -xprint -xv 
45,094 kB
[ebuild     U ] dev-lang/tk-8.4.9 [8.4.6-r1] -threads 3,189 kB
[ebuild  N    ] app-arch/rpm2targz-9.0-r2  2 kB
[ebuild  N    ] sys-apps/utempter-0.5.5.5-r1  -debug 20 kB
[ebuild  N    ] x11-terms/xterm-200-r1  -Xaw3d -debug -toolbar +truetype +unicode 681 kB
[ebuild     U ] net-www/apache-2.0.54-r4 [2.0.52-r1] +berkdb -debug +doc +gdbm +ipv6 -ldap 
+ssl -static -threads 5,468 kB
[ebuild     U ] app-crypt/mhash-0.9.2 [0.9.1] 833 kB
[ebuild     U ] media-libs/jpeg-6b-r4 [6b-r3] -debug 598 kB
[ebuild     U ] media-libs/tiff-3.7.2 [3.5.7-r1] 1,231 kB
[ebuild     U ] dev-libs/libxml2-2.6.17 [2.6.11] -debug +ipv6 +python +readline 2,995 kB
[ebuild  N    ] dev-libs/libgpg-error-1.0-r1  +nls 316 kB
[ebuild  N    ] dev-libs/libgcrypt-1.2.1  +nls 938 kB
[ebuild     U ] dev-libs/libxslt-1.1.12 [1.1.8] +crypt +python 1,736 kB
[ebuild     U ] media-libs/lcms-1.13-r1 [1.12] +jpeg +python +tiff +zlib 572 kB
[ebuild     U ] app-crypt/mit-krb5-1.3.6-r2 [1.3.3-r1] -krb4 -static 6,380 kB
[ebuild     U ] app-admin/sudo-1.6.7_p5-r2 [1.6.7_p5] +pam -skey 341 kB
[ebuild     U ] x11-libs/qt-3.3.4-r3 [3.3.3] -cups -debug +doc -examples -firebird +gif 
-immqt -immqt-bc +ipv6 +mysql -nas +odbc -opengl +postgres -sqlite -xinerama +zlib 14,101 kB
[ebuild     U ] dev-perl/Net-Daemon-0.38 [0.37] 30 kB
[ebuild     U ] dev-perl/Storable-2.13 [2.07-r1] 131 kB
[ebuild     U ] dev-perl/DBI-1.46 [1.38] 363 kB
[ebuild     U ] dev-perl/DBD-mysql-2.9003 [2.1027] 110 kB
[ebuild  N    ] app-doc/ucspi-tcp-man-20020317  7 kB
[ebuild     U ] sys-apps/ucspi-tcp-0.88-r10 [0.88-r5] +doc +ipv6 (-selinux) +ssl 78 kB
[ebuild     U ] net-mail/cmd5checkpw-0.22-r2 [0.22] 23 kB
[ebuild     U ] app-arch/ncompress-4.2.4-r1 [4.2.4] -build 39 kB
[ebuild  N    ] app-doc/daemontools-man-20020131  7 kB
[ebuild     U ] sys-process/daemontools-0.76-r4 [0.76-r3] +doc (-selinux) -static 36 kB
[ebuild     U ] sys-libs/db-1.85-r2 [1.85-r1] 279 kB
[ebuild     U ] dev-perl/perl-tk-804.027 [800.025-r1] 5,870 kB
[ebuild     U ] media-libs/freetype-1.3.1-r4 [1.3.1-r3] +nls* -tetex 1,919 kB
[ebuild     U ] net-libs/c-client-2004a-r1 [2002e-r2] -debug +pam +ssl 2,172 kB
[ebuild     U ] net-misc/curl-7.13.1 [7.11.0] +ipv6 -ldap +ssl 1,817 kB
[ebuild     U ] media-libs/t1lib-5.0.2 [5.0.0-r2] +X -debug +doc 1,657 kB


So, my main question now is do I really have to upgrade (or just install) all of this just 
to do this apache upgrade?

But as a side question, how have I gotten behind on all this stuff if I emerge world (just 
about) every day? Should I be doing emerge -uD world more often?

Well, I guess the emerge man page does quite clearly say "As an example, [emerge --deep] 
catches updates in libraries that are not directly listed in the dependencies of a 
package." Guess I missed that this whole time.

And, not to forget the original point of the thread, did anyone run into any gotchas doing 
the apache package refresh?

b




Ben Munat wrote:
> It's one of those days when every answer I seek creates more
> questions... any help appreciated:
>
> -- I have a pending update to apache-2.0.54-r4. This is the long-awaited
> "apache package refresh", correct?
>
> -- Assuming it is, I went to
> http://dev.gentoo.org/~vericgar/doc/apache-package-refresh.html#use
> and read through that. It says that "There are some modules and packages
> that depend on Apache that have not yet been updated." I went to the bug
> report specified, and almost all the dependent bugs are closed... I
> don't think anything that was open will affect me. It also recommended
> using equery; I did and it came up with:
>
> dev-db/phpmyadmin-2.6.1_p2-r1
> dev-db/phpmyadmin-2.5.7_p1
> dev-db/phpmyadmin-2.6.0_p2
> dev-db/phpmyadmin-2.6.0_p3
> dev-db/phpmyadmin-2.6.1_p2
> dev-db/phpmyadmin-2.6.1_rc1
> dev-php/mod_php-4.3.11
> dev-util/subversion-1.1.3
> net-mail/vqadmin-2.3.6
> net-mail/qmailadmin-1.2.1
> www-apps/gallery-1.4.4-r1
> www-apps/gallery-1.4.4_p2
> www-apps/gallery-1.4.4_p4
> www-apps/gallery-1.4.4_p5
> www-apps/gallery-1.4.4_p6
> www-apps/gallery-1.4.4
>
> Anyone see anything that they know still has a problem with the apache
> refresh?
>
> -- (side question:) gallery and phpmyadmin are installed via
> webapp-config... didn't realize I was accumulating versions... how do I
> get rid of old ones?
>
> -- The above migration document also talks about putting all the
> packages that support the apache changes in
> /etc/portage/package.keywords. But that's old information right? If the
> dependent bugs are closed, then the necessary packages should no longer
> be masked, right?
>
> -- I will still need to reinstall dependent packages to get the path
> changes taken care of, right? The migration doc suggests the use of
> "emerge --update --deep"... Hmm, and when I try that for "apache
> subversion mod_php vqadmin qmailadmin phpmyadmin gallery", it comes up
> with about 50 packages... yikes. But that needs to be done, right?
>
> -- (side question:) And actually, if I do the "emerge --deep ... world"
> version suggested there, it comes up with at least a hundred packages to
> update and then errors out, saying that "The above package list contains
> packages which cannot be installed on the same system." Why would that
> happen? And, I guess I've never paid much attention to the "--deep"
> option... is this something I should be doing more often?
>
> -- This new "no-htdocs" USE flag is only necessary if I install
> gentoo-webroot-default, right? I DO NOT want gentoo to overwrite my htdocs!
>
> -- I have phppgadmin installed as well... any idea why it doesn't show
> up in the equery report above?
>
> -- And actually, if I do "emerge -p phppgadmin" I get:
> [ebuild     U ] net-www/webapp-config-1.10-r14 [1.10-r11]
> [ebuild   R   ] dev-db/phppgadmin-3.5.1
> So, I'm current on phppgadmin, but there's supposedly an update to
> webapp-config!? But wait a minute, my "emerge -p world" doesn't show
> that... Hmm, I see, it's not in my world file... not sure how that
> happened. Well, I'll add it, but it be nice to know if there are others.
> Heh, I just tried regenworld and all it added was sys-devel/bin86... Why
> would webapp-config not get added to world and might there be other
> stuff that I'm missing. I depend on emerge world to keep me up to date!
>
> Okay, that's enough meandering questions for now... thanks in advance
> for any help.
>
> b
>
>
>
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