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On Mon, August 15, 2011 2:22 pm, Pandu Poluan wrote: |
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> On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 16:08, J. Roeleveld <joost@××××××××.org> wrote: |
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>> On Mon, August 15, 2011 8:18 am, Pandu Poluan wrote: |
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>>> On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 02:29, Joost Roeleveld <joost@××××××××.org> |
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>>> wrote: |
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>>>> On Sunday, August 14, 2011 07:20:18 PM Pandu Poluan wrote: |
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>>>>> On 2011-08-14, Joost Roeleveld <joost@××××××××.org> wrote: |
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>>>>> (Sorry for top-posting. Gmail Java mobile client sucks.) |
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>>>> |
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>>>> (Fixed this for you) |
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>>>>> I was thinking of something similar to XCP ... but with Gentoo as the |
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>>>>> Dom0. I'll call it GeDZux (Gentoo Domain Zero Linux) :P |
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>>>> A different name would be prefered by myself, not got an idea yet |
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>>>> though. |
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>>> No worry. I know it sounds too... wishy-washy/unserious. |
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>>> Had originally wanted to call it "Xentoo", but some might mistake it |
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>>> for Xen2, or worse Xen 2.0. |
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>>> Ah well... We'll think of something later :-) |
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>> Xentoo doesn't sound too bad, actually. |
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>>>>> The problem would be how to 'streamline' the installation of a |
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>>>>> GeDZux-based Xen Platform. The SysAdmin already has lots of things to |
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>>>>> think about; he/she doesn't need to think (too much) about which USE |
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>>>>> flags to use, what CFLAGS to put in, which packages to emerge |
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>>>>> *initially*, etc. |
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>>>> I agree, tools to quickly generate/close new domUs based on templates |
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>>>> would |
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>>>> help as well. With different options for where the disks are stored: |
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>>>> - File |
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>>>> - LVM |
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>>>> - physical partitions |
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>>> By domU here, do you mean Gentoo domU's or general domU's? |
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>> Any domU. As far as I am aware, any domU can be configured to use any |
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>> block-backend for the partitions/drives. |
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>>> Citrix XenServer's 'template' feature comes to mind... |
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>> Along with cloning/copying/export/....? |
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>> VMWare ESX has similar options. |
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> Cloning/copying, check (both "fast storage-based clone" and "full copy") |
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> Export, check. |
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> Move/migrate, check. |
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> If we want similar features, we really should learn about XCP & XAPI |
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> [http://wiki.xensource.com/xenwiki/XAPI_Developer_Guide] |
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> XCP is Citrix XenServer's "engine", released free a couple of months ago. |
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> XAPI is the 'smartness' of XenServer, and thus a part of XCP |
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> [http://xen.org/products/cloudxen.html] |
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Check... |
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>>>>> That is, how to provide sensible defaults yet not irreversibly |
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>>>>> removing Gentoo's freedom. So, GeDZux will be a Gentoo variant, a |
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>>>>> 'submetadistro', if you will :P |
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>>>> A profile putting all the necessary tools (xen, kernel, bridge,....) |
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>>>> as |
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>>>> required. |
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>>> Aha! Good idea. Let me learn how to make a profile then. |
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>> That way we can also set default USE-flags suitable for when using Xen. |
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> Gotcha :-) |
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> I'm going to try out on my company's VMware boxes (the guys at |
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> xen-users said that Xen runs okay on VMware, albeit without HVM domU |
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> support). |
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I think starting with a list of packages and use-flags needed to get PV |
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and HVM domains running would be a good starting point. |
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Then, we can put that into a profile and create a stage4 tar-file with |
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current versions. |
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I think it would be a good idea to try to continue on this with the |
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maintainers for Xen on Gentoo? |
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Joost |