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From: Deedra Waters <dmwaters@g.o>
To: gentoo-trustees@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-trustees] FW: [gentoo-nfp] I met with my lawyer
Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2004 21:31:42
Message-Id: Pine.LNX.4.56L0.0407151629400.15392@toucan.gentoo.org
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-trustees] FW: [gentoo-nfp] I met with my lawyer by Kurt Lieber
1 I've been watching this thread, and I think that what daniel is asking in his own way is "so, if you guys are going to change the agreement, does that mean that I can change it as well?" I could be wrong, but I think that that's what's really being asked.
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4 On Thu, 15 Jul 2004, Kurt Lieber wrote:
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6 > Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2004 21:22:28 +0000
7 > From: Kurt Lieber <klieber@g.o>
8 > Reply-To: gentoo-trustees@l.g.o
9 > To: gentoo-trustees@l.g.o
10 > Subject: Re: [gentoo-trustees] FW: [gentoo-nfp] I met with my lawyer
11 >
12 > On Thu, Jul 15, 2004 at 02:41:09PM -0600 or thereabouts, Daniel Robbins wrote:
13 > > To get to the point, if we are treating our good faith agreement as a
14 > > contract, then typically you would require the agreement of all parties
15 > > (that would include me) to make the change. If we are not treating our good
16 > > faith agreement as a contract, then what is its signficance? Is it simply a
17 > > set of guidelines? Something in-between a set of guidelines and a contract?
18 > > A "best effort?" If so, then you shouldn't have a problem with me making
19 > > slight modifications to the guidelines as well so that they are more in my
20 > > interests without any need for explanation, right?
21 >
22 > We have a very specific issue that we'd like to seek alternate legal
23 > counsel on. We're not saying "we're doing this whether you like it or
24 > not." We're saying "we are obligated to act in the best interests of
25 > Gentoo and, as part of that charter, we are going to seek a second opinion
26 > on the best sort of federal status to file for." Quite frankly, I think
27 > you would have more of a reason to be upset if we *weren't* seeking a
28 > second opinion.
29 >
30 > You, on the other hand, won't tell us what modifications you want/need to
31 > change. You're making an issue out of something that isn't even an issue.
32 > If you feel that us making this change to the agreement would force you to
33 > make changes on your side, fine. TELL US WHAT THEY ARE!!! Otherwise, this
34 > entire conversation is pointless.
35 >
36 > Let's assume, for the sake of argument, that we elect to file for 501c3
37 > status, after doing our due diligence and seeking legal counsel. Please
38 > state exactly what you would want to change if we pursue this course of
39 > action.
40 >
41 > > If you represent Gentoo, and you are changing the agreement to be in the
42 > > best interests of Gentoo, then why can't I, as the other party in the
43 > > agreement, also make other changes to be in my best interests? Or are
44 > > Gentoo's interests more legitimate than my interests? I hope not.
45 >
46 > Actually, we are obligated to consider Gentoo's interests more than your
47 > own. We're Trustees for Gentoo, not Daniel Robbins. That's not to say
48 > we're going to try and screw you over -- nobody is trying to do that. But
49 > our primary focus has to be what is best for Gentoo.
50 >
51 > --kurt
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