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drobbins wrote: |
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>Corey, |
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>If it's offensive to you, then talk to the other trustees about it. Probably |
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>best to use the secret, private trustees alias where most of the trustee |
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>communication goes on these days. Sheesh. Open communication? Are you sure |
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>about that? I have not seen any. I am not Dr. Phil so I'll avoid jumping |
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>into the middle of this communication issue. It's not my responsibility or |
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>place to fix it. Now that you know that the problem exists, you can try to |
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>fix it if you want. |
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I thought I -was- trying.. maybe it wasn't that obvious. I'll try |
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harder. As for the other trustees about it, they are not making any |
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accusations that I have seen so I haven't talked to them about it (they |
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are reading this so are free to speak up). |
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To me, your statement sounded like an accusation that Kurt had something |
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going on behind the scenes, like benefitting from Gentoo or something. |
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I don't believe this is the case, and why I took offense to it. Your |
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further statements clear up those accusations a bit for me. |
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>I was working with Kurt because he controls infrastructure, he controls |
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>adverstising, and from personal experience I know that nothing happens in |
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>these areas at all unless Kurt is OK with it. That is just standard |
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>operating procedure on this project. Things that get his approval happen |
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>very quickly, and things that don't get held up in discussion for months of |
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>consensus-building, group-thought and over-analysis. Things happen easily |
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>for friends of his, but do not happen easily for others. Whether or not that |
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>is reality (I do not want to start another debate about that,) this is the |
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>very real impression I have of how this project operates, both when I was on |
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>this project and after I resigned. For what it's worth, I am also *not the |
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>only person* with this impression. There are other Gentoo developers who |
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>have reached this impression independently, though their own independent |
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>personal experiences. They have posted to Gentoo-dev about it. This should |
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>not be news to you. |
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Yeah, I can't argue this.. But, if you are talking about issues dealing |
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with the Store's relationship to the Foundation, then maybe that should |
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have gone to the foundation as a group instead of to Kurt. |
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>The thing I am comfortable saying without touching on intra-trustee issues |
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>-- I'm not comfortable giving Kurt information because it gives him |
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>additional things to discuss for months and months to hold up important |
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>decisions. If you have not experienced this, then be glad you're his friend! |
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>It's not nearly as pleasant for those of us who aren't. |
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I don't know what there is to hide here.. if you are talking about the |
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suggestions I made previously about Store reports, how much the NFP is |
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costing, etc.. I don't see how that information could be used to hold |
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stuff up. In my mind the lack of it would do just that. |
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>I hope I have been "open" enough without "opening" up additional cans of |
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>worms. I'm also hoping that we're able to make the transition from worms to |
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>gummi worms at some point in the future. |
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Sure, I hope so as well. Trying to be neutral here, as I still |
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consider you both friends, if you both want to transition from this, |
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then you both will have to put the past behind you and move on. This |
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hasn't -truly- happened, but rather problems build upon previous |
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problems. You mentioned trying to put the past behind you before in the |
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paragraph I snipped (for the length of this msg), but then later in the |
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e-mail you drew on past experiences. This has happened on both ends of |
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the issue this time and in times past.. |
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Whether you both work it out or not, that's up to you.. What does |
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concern me is letting one person-person conflict disrupt the work |
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between the store and the foundation. If we all had to get along well |
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with everyone else on the development team in order to do out work, |
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Gentoo wouldn't exist. That's sad, yes, but true. I would like to see |
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the work go forward despite any disagreements, and as far as my |
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suggestions yesterday, that should be possible. |
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Cheers, |
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-Corey |
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