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From: Grant Edwards <grant.b.edwards@×××××.com>
To: gentoo-user@l.g.o
Subject: [gentoo-user] Re: The future of linux, and Gentoo specifically now
Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2014 22:12:50
Message-Id: m52us0$lvr$2@ger.gmane.org
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: The future of linux, and Gentoo specifically now by Alan McKinnon
1 On 2014-11-25, Alan McKinnon <alan.mckinnon@×××××.com> wrote:
2 > On 25/11/2014 18:35, Grant Edwards wrote:
3 >> On 2014-11-23, Alan McKinnon <alan.mckinnon@×××××.com> wrote:
4 >>
5 >>> There is only the one that portage will happen to install should you not
6 >>> specify a preference.
7 >>
8 >> If "default" doesn't mean "what will happen should you not specify a
9 >> preference", then what _does_ "default" mean?
10 >
11 > Please go back and read the whole thread and stop quibbling about
12 > semantics.
13
14 I read the whole thread, and I still didn't understand your statement
15 that there is no default init system.
16
17 > The OP made statements that read as if he felt entitled to support,
18 > bugfixes etc from the gentoo dev community by simple virtue of a
19 > particular package being considered a default. I pointed out he was
20 > expecting far in excess of what was promised.
21
22 That's fine, and I agree 100%
23
24 But that's got nothing to do with whether Openrc is the default init
25 system or not? It _is_ the default init system. Whether that means
26 all packages are required to support it or not is a different question
27 (about which the OP seemed to be mistaken). If what you meant was
28 that packages are not required to support the default init system,
29 then, I don't understand how that is spelled "there is no default init
30 system".
31
32 I honestly didn't understand why you said there was no default init
33 system, when there clearly is. I _did_ understand that not all
34 packages are required to support the default init system (which is
35 Openrc). That didn't appear to be what you were claiming. Were it
36 true that there was no default init system, then you would have _no_
37 init system unless you explicitly installed one yourself (which is the
38 case for countless other things like a system logger, bootloader,
39 windowing system, desktop, photo editor, etc.). For those things
40 there is no default. There is a default init system.
41
42 --
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