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From: Daniel da Veiga <danieldaveiga@×××××.com>
To: gentoo-user@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] genkernel vs kernel manual compilation
Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2007 22:05:40
Message-Id: 342e1090708311454p664286e8hcbdcd01e1e2354a3@mail.gmail.com
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-user] genkernel vs kernel manual compilation by Volker Armin Hemmann
1 On 8/31/07, Volker Armin Hemmann <volker.armin.hemmann@××××××××××××.de> wrote:
2 > On Freitag, 31. August 2007, Steen Eugen Poulsen wrote:
3 >
4 > >
5 > > And to the lies:
6 > >
7 > > Lie:
8 > > because I have seen more than one non-booting totally f* up kernel
9 > > created by
10 > > genkernel. I won't touch it ever again. If something sucked in the past,
11 > > the
12 > > change is great that it sucks again in the future. Plus it doesn't really
13 > > make things easier, does it?
14 > >
15 > >
16 > > Thats a LIE, genkernel DOES not have ANY inteligence to create .config
17 > > for kernels, why is he spreading FUD about it creating "f* up" kernels.
18 >
19 > exactly, genkernel has no intelligence. So there is no reason to use it.
20 >
21 > >
22 > > Lie 2: It doesn't make things easier.
23 > >
24 > > It does make things easier, again he is confusing automagic .config
25 > > creation with what genkernel can help with. The tool automate the task
26 > > involved in compiling kernels and/or maintaining multiple
27 > > configurations. And the Vol fellow really should start using genkernel
28 > > as his comment clearly demonstrate he does not take appropriate caution
29 > > to ensure that the kernel source is in a sane state between compiles.
30 >
31 > and how is make oldconfig && make all modules_install install harder to do
32 > than anything genkernel does?
33
34 It doesn't rename to the version you're using, it doesn't keep
35 different configs for different versions, doesn't mount /boot
36 automatically, it doesn't create a initrd automatically (yeah, you may
37 not use, but lots of us do), specially with gensplash on it, also the
38 config and way genkernel boots is good for testing machines that keep
39 exchanging hardware a lot, it also is much safer than reading (and not
40 understanding) make help.
41
42 But again, its all a question of TASTE. Your taste may be different
43 and so you'll probably (as you do in most mails) put your own personal
44 thoughts ignoring that maybe someone thinks different. But that does
45 not give you the right to diss the tool because you don't like it,
46 devs put effort to make user's life easier with tools like genkernel,
47 and the ones who use the tool like it, as some that would try it would
48 like too, accept that.
49
50 >
51 > oh, it isn't? genkernel is just another step that can go wrong.
52 > --
53
54 Can't you just post your opinion, without bragging about how your
55 choices are better than ours?
56
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58 Daniel da Veiga
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Re: [gentoo-user] genkernel vs kernel manual compilation Volker Armin Hemmann <volker.armin.hemmann@××××××××××××.de>