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From: Dale <rdalek1967@×××××.com>
To: gentoo-user@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Anyone switched to eudev yet?
Date: Tue, 25 Dec 2012 23:16:15
Message-Id: 50DA32F5.7080004@gmail.com
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Anyone switched to eudev yet? by Paul Colquhoun
1 Paul Colquhoun wrote:
2 >
3 > On Tue, 25 Dec 2012 19:17:24 Nuno J. Silva wrote:
4 >
5 > >
6 >
7 > > Also, if you actually read the linked URL, it does explain it won't fail
8 >
9 > > to boot. You do realize these are two different issues here, right? One
10 >
11 > > is people saying that udev-181 will fail to boot, other is the issue
12 >
13 > > described on the URL linked on the news item, which is about stuff in
14 >
15 > > /usr breaking udev rules, which has been around for a long time and will
16 >
17 > > *silently* fail. I remind you that "silently fail" implies that your
18 >
19 > > system will still boot, even if it is affected by the issue.
20 >
21 >
22 >
23 >
24 >
25 > So, instead of fixing udev properly, by making the failures visible
26 > (as they probably should have been from the start) or even re-queueing
27 > the events to be run after the rule files are avaiable, the developers
28 > took the easy (for them) way out, and told the rest of the world to do
29 > things their way.
30 >
31 >
32 >
33 >
34
35 Basically, yep. If I see a error while booting, in dmesg or some other
36 logging tool, I can handle it and make changes so that it is fixed.
37 When I mentioned on this list about using LVM, I specifically chose to
38 put / on a normal partition to avoid the init thingy. If I have to use
39 a init thingy anyway, I may as well put everything but /boot on LVM.
40 Putting / on LVM usually means you have to have a init thingy so that it
41 can be mounted, from what I have read anyway. It looked like for a
42 while that I was going to have one whether I wanted it or not. Now,
43 just waiting eudev, which is going to fix it like udev/systemd should to
44 begin with.
45
46 You pretty much got the idea of it tho.
47
48 Dale
49
50 :-) :-)
51
52 --
53 I am only responsible for what I said ... Not for what you understood or how you interpreted my words!