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From: Nikos Chantziaras <realnc@×××××.com>
To: gentoo-user@l.g.o
Subject: [gentoo-user] Re: Cdrtools installation without suid root
Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2013 05:54:19
Message-Id: klnm98$nro$1@ger.gmane.org
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Cdrtools installation without suid root by Joerg Schilling
1 On 29/04/13 17:22, Joerg Schilling wrote:
2 > Nikos Chantziaras <realnc@×××××.com> wrote:
3 >> You don't know what my intentions are. I might be doing testing,
4 >> debugging, who knows what. It's the "trying to be smarter than the
5 >> user" thing. The defaults of course would be to built the software in a
6 >> sane, secure way. Only users who know what they're doing would disable
7 >> that, and they'd have their reasons.
8 >
9 > Would you call someone who shoots himself into the foot "smart"?
10 >
11 > Recent Linux kernels support fcaps in the filesystems and "somebody" evil, who
12 > knows what he does may even set up fcaps on executable files when the related
13 > support-software is not installed, just because the unstable kernel interfaces
14 > are accessible from libc.
15 >
16 > Do you like people to be able to open security holes?
17
18 You don't know what my intentions are and why I want to disable libcap.
19 I have my reasons. This happens because it is actually possible to
20 disable it.
21
22 If you really don't like that, then you should probably make libcap
23 mandatory. Assume it's there, and if it's not, the user should get
24 compile errors.
25
26 But as long as it's not mandatory, I have my reasons why I would want to
27 disable it, just as I have my reasons why I would want to explicitly
28 enable it. What if autodetection fails? If I use the appropriate
29 "enable libcap" flag, and libcap is not there, or it's broken, or
30 whatever, I don't want to get a build that's now insecure. I want the
31 build to abort with a big, fat error.
32
33 I think you're too used to binary distros and Solaris to appreciate the
34 different requirements of source-based distros :-)

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Cdrtools installation without suid root Joerg Schilling <Joerg.Schilling@××××××××××××××××.de>