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From: Wols Lists <antlists@××××××××××××.uk>
To: gentoo-user@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Rearranging hard drives and data.
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 2020 22:42:23
Message-Id: 5FDE8B0C.6090602@youngman.org.uk
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-user] Rearranging hard drives and data. by David Haller
1 On 19/12/20 21:31, David Haller wrote:
2 > Hello,
3 >
4 > On Sat, 19 Dec 2020, antlists wrote:
5 >> On 19/12/2020 18:49, David Haller wrote:
6 >>> -dnh, the MoBo though is quite a fine piece with 8 SATA + 2 eSATA
7 >>> ports onboard:) I'm gonna miss eSATA in newer HW:( Hot-plug
8 >>> almost like USB but full SATA feature set and speed (e.g. SMART).
9 >>
10 >> Buy add-in sata cards. The ones I've been looking at are two-port cards, with
11 >> two internal and two external (jumper-selected) connectors.
12 >
13 > I already got one. Yes, I'd pitch MoBo w/many SATA vs. MoBo w/fewer
14 > SATA plus AddIn, but PCI(e) slots are also limited and >=2 port cards
15 > get expensive rather quick, say a card with >= 4 internal and
16 > _extra_[0] 1-2 eSATA ... So, I'll rather have a MoBo with lots of SATA
17 > + addin than MoBo plus tons of addin cards...
18
19 Well, I feel as frustrated as you with my new setup. My new mobo
20 wouldn't boot so I took it to the shop saying "I think it needs a BIOS
21 update". They replaced the mobo, and fortunately offered me the old one
22 back before chucking it. I discovered it was still under warranty, sent
23 it back to Gigabyte, and it came back fixed with a BIOS update!!!
24
25 The replacement mobo (which they charged me twice what I'd paid for the
26 original) was spec'd as having "plenty of onboard SATA". I think the old
27 Gigabyte mobo had at least 6. The new one has 6, of which two collide
28 with the graphics cards or NVMe. Seeing as I'm planning on running
29 multi-seat, I need two graphics cards ... :-(
30 >
31 >
32 > Were it not for gentoo and large stuff needing 6+ hours to compile,
33 > the occasional reencoding of a video[3], and some fucking websites
34 > which take ages to load (which was one reason for me to update 10
35 > years ago from my then Athlon 500[2])... *ELIDED* those *ELIDED*
36 > webdevs *ELIDED* - sideways - *ELIDED* that *ELIDED* *ELIDED* so
37 > called webpages that gobble CPU as if there's no tomorrow! And
38 > *ELIDED* I know, I built webpages that (besides larger pictures) load
39 > snappy over a 4kB/56kBit/s modem in fractions of a second (no wonder,
40 > being typically <0.5KB in size and no JS or other crud, there's a lot
41 > you can fit in 1 KB :).
42 >
43 > What was I saying, ahh, yes: ... I'd not even consider upgrading.
44 >
45 > Well, more RAM would be nice by now, what with those *ELIDED* browsers
46 > and *ELIDED* Java-Apps gobbling RAM as if there's TiBs of it for
47 > free... *ARGHHHH*&&RAS*()#@*{!@_)(@I*CONNECTION RESET BY BEER*
48
49 Smile ...
50 >
51 > -dnh
52 >
53 > [0] i.e. working in parallel to the internal ports
54 >
55 > [1] SATA2 was still normal then
56 >
57 > [2] yep, the original, slowest Athlon ever sold, sufficed for me for
58 > many many years, along with an even older Matrox Mystique (the
59 > original 150MHz RAMDAC but as the beefy 4MB SGRAM version)
60
61 I ran that same Matrox - loved it - with an Athlon 1400 - tbird - and
62 that lasted me ages and ages. The chip ran at 1050 because the mobo was
63 a 100MHz bus but the chip wanted 133MHz. I think that machine had 758MB
64 ram - 3x256MB sticks because that's the max it would take. And because
65 its replacement had "issues" (still does) I compiled everything on the
66 slow machine before installing it on the fast one ...
67 >
68 > [3] BTW: it's astonishing how inefficient some streamed videos are
69 > encoded, just today I crunched down one from 2.9GiB to about
70 > 639MiB. Albeit, I scaled down from 720p to 576p, but do the maths.
71 >
72 > I regularly get to <50% of the size of the original without any
73 > scaling, and all without any visible loss (x264 with crf=23:nr=750,
74 > that codec-internal noise reduction alone can get you ~10% less
75 > size ;) Well, it's what you get when you don't know about codecs
76 > or you just run HW-encoders at defaults, I guess...
77 >
78 Oh - and if your original is mpeg2, you might find you've deleted entire
79 streams of stuff you're not interested in.
80
81 Cheers,
82 Wol