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On 19/12/20 21:31, David Haller wrote: |
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> Hello, |
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> On Sat, 19 Dec 2020, antlists wrote: |
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>> On 19/12/2020 18:49, David Haller wrote: |
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>>> -dnh, the MoBo though is quite a fine piece with 8 SATA + 2 eSATA |
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>>> ports onboard:) I'm gonna miss eSATA in newer HW:( Hot-plug |
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>>> almost like USB but full SATA feature set and speed (e.g. SMART). |
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>> Buy add-in sata cards. The ones I've been looking at are two-port cards, with |
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>> two internal and two external (jumper-selected) connectors. |
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> I already got one. Yes, I'd pitch MoBo w/many SATA vs. MoBo w/fewer |
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> SATA plus AddIn, but PCI(e) slots are also limited and >=2 port cards |
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> get expensive rather quick, say a card with >= 4 internal and |
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> _extra_[0] 1-2 eSATA ... So, I'll rather have a MoBo with lots of SATA |
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> + addin than MoBo plus tons of addin cards... |
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Well, I feel as frustrated as you with my new setup. My new mobo |
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wouldn't boot so I took it to the shop saying "I think it needs a BIOS |
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update". They replaced the mobo, and fortunately offered me the old one |
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back before chucking it. I discovered it was still under warranty, sent |
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it back to Gigabyte, and it came back fixed with a BIOS update!!! |
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The replacement mobo (which they charged me twice what I'd paid for the |
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original) was spec'd as having "plenty of onboard SATA". I think the old |
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Gigabyte mobo had at least 6. The new one has 6, of which two collide |
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with the graphics cards or NVMe. Seeing as I'm planning on running |
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multi-seat, I need two graphics cards ... :-( |
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> Were it not for gentoo and large stuff needing 6+ hours to compile, |
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> the occasional reencoding of a video[3], and some fucking websites |
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> which take ages to load (which was one reason for me to update 10 |
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> years ago from my then Athlon 500[2])... *ELIDED* those *ELIDED* |
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> webdevs *ELIDED* - sideways - *ELIDED* that *ELIDED* *ELIDED* so |
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> called webpages that gobble CPU as if there's no tomorrow! And |
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> *ELIDED* I know, I built webpages that (besides larger pictures) load |
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> snappy over a 4kB/56kBit/s modem in fractions of a second (no wonder, |
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> being typically <0.5KB in size and no JS or other crud, there's a lot |
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> you can fit in 1 KB :). |
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> What was I saying, ahh, yes: ... I'd not even consider upgrading. |
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> Well, more RAM would be nice by now, what with those *ELIDED* browsers |
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> and *ELIDED* Java-Apps gobbling RAM as if there's TiBs of it for |
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> free... *ARGHHHH*&&RAS*()#@*{!@_)(@I*CONNECTION RESET BY BEER* |
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Smile ... |
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> -dnh |
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> [0] i.e. working in parallel to the internal ports |
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> [1] SATA2 was still normal then |
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> [2] yep, the original, slowest Athlon ever sold, sufficed for me for |
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> many many years, along with an even older Matrox Mystique (the |
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> original 150MHz RAMDAC but as the beefy 4MB SGRAM version) |
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I ran that same Matrox - loved it - with an Athlon 1400 - tbird - and |
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that lasted me ages and ages. The chip ran at 1050 because the mobo was |
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a 100MHz bus but the chip wanted 133MHz. I think that machine had 758MB |
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ram - 3x256MB sticks because that's the max it would take. And because |
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its replacement had "issues" (still does) I compiled everything on the |
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slow machine before installing it on the fast one ... |
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> [3] BTW: it's astonishing how inefficient some streamed videos are |
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> encoded, just today I crunched down one from 2.9GiB to about |
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> 639MiB. Albeit, I scaled down from 720p to 576p, but do the maths. |
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> I regularly get to <50% of the size of the original without any |
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> scaling, and all without any visible loss (x264 with crf=23:nr=750, |
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> that codec-internal noise reduction alone can get you ~10% less |
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> size ;) Well, it's what you get when you don't know about codecs |
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> or you just run HW-encoders at defaults, I guess... |
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Oh - and if your original is mpeg2, you might find you've deleted entire |
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streams of stuff you're not interested in. |
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Cheers, |
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