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From: Markos Chandras <markos.chandras@×××××.com>
To: gentoo-user@l.g.o
Cc: Albert Hopkins <marduk@×××××××××××.org>
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] [bit OT] 32 vs. 64 bits
Date: Mon, 08 Dec 2008 18:05:22
Message-Id: 200812082004.56657.markos.chandras@gmail.com
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-user] [bit OT] 32 vs. 64 bits by Albert Hopkins
1 On Monday 08 December 2008 17:09:04 Albert Hopkins wrote:
2 > On Mon, 2008-12-08 at 14:59 +0100, pat wrote:
3 > > Hello,
4 > >
5 > > I've bought a new laptop with Core 2 Duo processor which is 64 bit. My
6 > > question is if applications (see below) compiled and running over 64 bits
7 > > are stable enough or if I should compile for 32 bits.
8 > >
9 > > The applications are:
10 > > - Seamoneky/Firefox
11 > > - Java
12 > > - Flash
13 > > - Audacious
14 > > - mplayer
15 > > - VirtualBox/VMware
16 > > - Qemu
17 > > - Kerberos/OpenLDAP/OpenSSH (for these I think they are stable)
18 > > - X.org/fluxbox
19 > > - system suspending
20 >
21 > With very very few exceptions, stability shouldn't be much of an issue
22 > for you. It's pretty much the same source code base. What you should be
23 > more concerned about is application availability, especially WRT:
24 >
25 > * if the application is closed-source is there a 64-bit version
26 > * have the Gentoo maintainers marked it (yet) for amd64 (stable).
27 > Gentoo is (or at least used to be) a bit slower at marking
28 > things amd64 just because there are (were) fewer testers. I
29 > think this is pretty much a non-issue nowadays.
30 > * if it has code optimized in assembler is there optimized
31 > x64/compabile assembler.
32 >
33 > We (well, I) still use the closed-source (well, binary) versions of
34 > java. IBM's Java at least has a 64-bit port.
35 >
36 > Adobe just released a Linux x64 port of Flash (in Alpha). From my
37 > experience it's just as stable (or rather unstable) as the x86 version.
38 >
39 > win32codecs will not work unless it's used by a 32-bit exe (You can run
40 > 32-bit apps on x64).
41 >
42 > System suspending if largely kernel.
43 >
44 > Anyway probably more than you wanted to know, but I don't think
45 > stability is ever really a factor. Linux has supported 64-bit
46 > processors for at least 15 years (I think). Usually the only issue
47 > (just like running Linux on *any* non-x86 architecture) is the
48 > availability of proprietary apps.
49 >
50 > -a
51 I am using amd64/x86 Gentoo for 3 years. Both of them are really really great.
52 Especially amd64 machine which is my desktop/development can run simply
53 everything. All the mainline applications can run perfect on in
54 So if you want my advise, forget about the x86 and go install amd64. You wont
55 regret it :)
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57 Markos Chandras