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Grant Edwards wrote: |
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> For several decades, I was a loyal AMD customer. But the last time I |
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> upgraded my home desktop (2013), AMD just didn't seem to have anything |
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> that could complete with the Core-i3/5 CPUs with integrated graphics. |
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> The Intel HD-2500 GPU was plenty fast enough for everything I did back |
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> then, so I went with an i3-3220T (2 cores, 4 threads), and have been |
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> very happy with it (except for the security vulnerabilties). It even |
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> handled it fine when I started working from home and added a second |
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> monitor. |
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> But, after the last update to the Heli-X flight simulator, I did |
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> notice that I'm bouncing off the rev-limiter on the GPU. In order to |
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> get a reasonable frame rate and sort-of-smooth background panning I |
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> had to dial-down or turn off all the configurable graphics features |
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> (anti-aliasing, smoke, reflections, etc.). Even with all of the fancy |
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> stuff turned off, it still sometimes struggles and the frame rate |
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> drops to below 20. |
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> I thought about buying a video card. A $40-50 Radeon or NVidia card |
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> would be more than enough GPU. In the past I've been burned by ATI |
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> cards being abandoned within a year or two of purcase. Is AMD any |
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> better about support? Of course, dealing with closed-source NVidia |
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> drivers is also annoying. |
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> Also, the motherboard/CPU are almost 8 years old. Maybe it's time for |
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> a new AMD Ryzen with an integrated GPU. Even the low-end sub-$100 |
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> Ryzen 3 with Vega 8 GPU would be a big jump in performance from the |
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> current Intel HD 2500. For another $40, a Ryzen 5 with Vega 11 GPU |
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> would completely outclass what I have now. |
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> How are the AMD "Wraith Stealth" fans? I've been using the fan that |
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> came with the old Core-i3, and it gets a little annoying when it's |
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> time to compile chromium (or when flying planes/helicopters). |
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> Any issues with Gentoo and Xorg on AMD integrated Vega 8/11 GPUs? |
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> AFAICT, the drivers are all open source, and it ought to "just work" |
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> with recent kernels. |
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> Unfortunately, the capaciters on the existing motherboard are all |
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> solid and probably aren't going to pop any time soon. |
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I don't know if they still available but I have a Cooler Master HAF-932 |
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case that has those large fans. I also bought a much larger CPU cooler |
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than the tiny little toy that comes with CPUs. It has a 140MM fan. |
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When I'm doing updates, I can't hear any of the fans even in a quiet |
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room with me sitting right beside it. |
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There may be other cases that have similar setups by now. Those large |
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fans are very quiet but move a lot of air. Right now while the CPU is |
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idle, the CPU fan is running at about 1,000RPM. The rear fan is also a |
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140mm running at 600RPMs. The large fans are running at around 700RPMs |
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each. I think the best idea is the top fan. As we know, heat rises. |
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That top fan really pulls out some heat. The side fan doesn't have a |
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RPM monitor but it appears to turn at about the same speed as the front |
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and top. BTW, the front fans blows air across the hard drives. |
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At idle, CPU temp is about 100F. Ambient in the case is about 85F. |
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Room temp is about 71F. I'm guessing something warm is close to the |
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temp sensor on the mobo. When I'm compiling and maxing out the CPUs, it |
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tends to run at about 124F. If it hits 125F or so, I get my air blower |
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and blow out the dust. While the fans do speed up, I still can't hear |
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anything. |
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This case supports water cooling systems but since I always buy large |
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CPU coolers and cases with a lot of fans, I've never seen the point of |
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water cooling. |
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I might add, other than systems someone gave me, I've never had a Intel |
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based system. I always build systems with AMD CPUs. So far, I've |
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always bought AMD video cards too. I've read where some say ATI has |
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better support but I don't know myself. Of course, I always buy older |
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cards so it doesn't matter much. As with most anything, most problems |
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are with very new stuff that doesn't have good stable Linux drivers |
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yet. One reason I try to get parts that are based on older tech. Of |
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course, I don't play heavy duty games either. |
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I have a cousin that used to build a new system every couple years for |
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gaming. Several years ago, they just started buying game boxes. They |
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use their computer for email etc and use the game boxes for playing |
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games. When needed, they buy new game boxes. They say it makes things |
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a lot easier on them. Tends to be cheaper too. |
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Just some thoughts you might want to ponder on. |
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Dale |
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:-) :-) |