Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Anyone switched to eudev yet?

[Dale]

Nuno J. Silva wrote:
> On 2012-12-25, Bruce Hill wrote:
>
>> On Tue, Dec 25, 2012 at 02:10:28PM +0200, Nuno J. Silva wrote:
>>> No, actually it doesn't. It just has the same kind of very generic claim
>>> that has been repeated several times in this thread (which is "why?
>>> because it won't work") and links to an article that explains why some
>>> udev rules would silently fail for all this time (for *years* now, I'd
>>> guess).
>>>
>>> The article does not describe a change introduced with 181, it describes
>>> what already happened with previous versions. I am not using >= 181 and
>>> I do see the issues the article mentions (it does not break here because
>>> I do not have a separate /usr, but I can see some rules that use stuff
>>> from /usr).
>> You have such an obvious lack of understanding, and problem comprehending
>> English, we just don't need to post to you anymore. ;)
> Please be my guest and explain me in which part of that article is it
> said that some behavior *introduced in udev-181* will break systems with
> a separate /usr.
>
>

Quoting from Gentoo news item:

root@fireball / # eselect news read 2
2012-03-16-udev-181-unmasking
  Title                     udev-181 unmasking
  Author                    William Hubbs <williamh@g.o>
  Posted                    2012-03-16
  Revision                  1

udev-181 is being unmasked on 2012-03-19.

This news item is to inform you that once you upgrade to a version of
udev >=181, if you have /usr on a separate partition, you must boot your
system with an initramfs which pre-mounts /usr.

An initramfs which does this is created by
>=sys-kernel/genkernel-3.4.25.1 or
>=sys-kernel/dracut-017-r1. If you do not want to use these tools, be
sure any initramfs you create pre-mounts /usr.

Also, if you are using OpenRC, you must upgrade to >= openrc-0.9.9.

For more information on why this has been done, see the following URL:
http://freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/separate-usr-is-broken

root@fireball / #

Now are you saying the Gentoo devs are lying to us?  Careful now.  Could
end up on a slippery slope and bump your head. That says anything BEFORE
181 boots fine with a separate /usr, 181 or anything after does not. 
Simple enough for you yet? 

I might add, I have ALWAYS had a separate /usr.  Darn near a decade
now.  It has never failed to boot because /usr was on a separate
partition.  NOT ONCE.  Now I am told it is going to fail.  Go figure. 
Go try to tell me that it was broken all these years.  Yea, right. 
That's like telling me the Sun comes up in the west when I can see it
doesn't with my own two eyes.  Good luck with that.  Reminds me of
that"tell it to the hand" thing.  ROFL

Dale

:-)  :-) 

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