[gentoo-user] new computer : any advice ? - gentoo-user

From:	Philip Webb <purslow@××××××××.net>
To:	Gentoo User <gentoo-user@l.g.o>
Subject:	[gentoo-user] new computer : any advice ?
Date:	Mon, 07 Sep 2015 19:56:36
Message-Id:	`20150907195624.GC1081@ca.inter.net`

1

I've built  4  machines starting in 2000 ,

2

all with parts bought from Canada Computers in downtown Toronto.

3

ANB1 + ANB3 had Intel CPUs, ANB2 + ANB4 have AMD CPUs

4

('ANB' = 'Aristotle's new body', Aristotle being my computer spirit (grin)).

5

ANB1 (2000) went to the recyclers long ago, ANB3 (2007) is a door-stop ;

6

ANB2 (2003) still wakes up, but can't talk to a present-day mouse ;

7

ANB4 (2012) has worked perfectly to date ; ANB2-4 all run Gentoo.

8

9

Since I currently have only  1  usable machine, ie no stand-by,

10

I want to build a new cutting-edge replacement with ANB4 becoming stand-by.

11

12

Below are what I put into ANB4 & what is offered today for ANB5 :

13

I've marked my 1st-take choices with a '*'.

14

Since my AMD machines have been more successful than the Intels,

15

I intend to use an AMD CPU again & anyway they seem to be cheaper & faster.

16

Gigabyte mobos are cheaper & it has been good in ANB4.

17

I've always used Kingston memory with no problems.

18

I want Nvidia graphix & the faster card seems a better choice.

19

SSD HDD DVD drives don't offer much choice, but these seem adequate.

20

21

I use the machine for typical desktop office + personal work :

22

no gaming, no movies, no music (I might try enabling sound in ANB5).

23

Efficient handling of Gentoo emerges is important.

24

25

I am a bit shocked at the big increase in price

26

for a smaller increase in overall performance,

27

but I can afford the parts as described ; prices in CAD, of course.

28

29

ANB4 :

30

31

  120823 CPU : AMD Bulldozer X4 FX-4170 4-Core 4,2 GHz 8 MB    :  129.99

32

           Item CPUA003075 ; Part FD4170FRGUBOX

33

  120823 Gigabyte GA-990FXA-UD3 990FX+SB950 1866/1600/1333/1066 : 144.99 M20

34

          4x PCI Express x16 Gigabit LAN

35

          6x SATA 6GB/s 2x eSATA 6GB/s 4x USB 3.0+ 14x USB 2.0 AM3+ ATX

36

           Item MBGA001655 ; Part GA-990FXA-UD3

37

         Direct replacement : 1 yr                             :   15.95

38

  120823 Memory : Kingston HyperX 4 GB DDR3 1600 MHz CL9       :   24.99

39

           Item RAMK003793 ; Part KHX1600C9D3/4G

40

  120823 Graphix : Asus GT520-1GD3-CSM Nv GT520 810 MHz 1 GB   :   54.99

41

           Item VCAS002280 ; Part GT520-1GD3-CSM

42

  120823 SSD : OCZ Vertex4 128 GB SATA3 R 560 MB/s W 430 MB/s  :  114.99

43

           Item SMOC001080 ; Part VTX4-25SAT3-128G

44

  120823 HDD : Seagate Barracuda SATA3 500 GB 16 MB 6 Gb/s     :   69.99

45

           Item HDSG002084 ; Part ST500DM002

46

         Ont recycle fee                                       :    0.05

47

  120823 Case : Thermal Master TC-102 ATX Tower 500 W          :   42.99

48

49

                                                      subtotal :  598.93 

50

                                                           tax :   77.86

51

                                                         total :  676.79

52

53

ANB5 :

54

55

  CPU : AMD :

56

57

    CPUA003145 FD8320FRHKBOX : Downtown 4 : $ 205

58

    X8 FX-8320 (125 W) 8-Core Socket AM3+  3.5 GHz   8 Mb Cache  32 nm

59

60

    CPUA003140 FD8350FRHKBOX : Downtown 6 : $ 239

61

    X8 FX-8350 (125 W) 8-Core Socket AM3+  4   GHz   8 Mb Cache  32 nm

62

63

    CPUA003445 FD837EWMHKBOX : Downtown 3 : $ 269

64

    X8 FX-8370E (95 W) 8-Core Socket AM3+  4.3 GHz   8 Mb Cache  32 nm

65

66

  * CPUA003454 FD8370FRHKBOX : Downtown 1 : $ 279

67

    X8 FX-8370 (125 W) 8-Core Socket AM3+  4.3 GHz  16 Mb Cache  32 nm

68

69

  Mobo : Asus :

70

71

    MBAS003960 M5A97 LE R2.0    : Downtown 5 : $  95

72

    ASUS M5A97 LE R2.0 Socket AM3+ AMD 970/SB950 Chipset

73

    Dual Channel DDR3 2133(O.C.) MHz, 2x PCI-Express x16

74

    GLAN, 6x SATA 6.0 Gb/s, 2x USB 3.0, 6x USB 2.0

75

ATX

76

77

    MBAS003965 M5A97 R2.0       : Downtown 2 : $ 130

78

    ASUS M5A97 R2.0 Socket AM3+ AMD 970/SB950 Chipset

79

    Dual Channel DDR3 2133(O.C.) MHz, 2x PCI-Express x16

80

    GLAN, 6x SATA 6.0 Gb/s, 2x USB 3.0, 6x USB 2.0

81

ATX

82

83

    MBAS004035 M5A99X EVO R2.0  : Downtown 2 : $ 145

84

    ASUS M5A99X EVO R2.0 Socket AM3+ AMD 990X/SB950 Chipset

85

    Dual Channel DDR3 2133(O.C.) MHz, 3x PCI-Express x16

86

    GLAN, 6x SATA 6.0 Gb/s, 2x eSATA 6.0Gb/s, 2x USB 3.0, 8x USB 2.0

87

ATX

88

89

    MBAS003885 M5A99FX PRO R2.0 : Downtown 3 : $ 160

90

    ASUS M5A99FX PRO R2.0 Socket AM3+ AMD 990FX/SB950 Chipset

91

    Dual Channel DDR3 2133(O.C.) MHz, 4x PCI-Express x16

92

    GLAN, 7x SATA 6.0 Gb/s, 1x eSATA, 2x USB 3.0, 8x USB 2.0

93

ATX

94

95

    MBAS003995 SABERTOOTH 990FX R2.0 : Downtown 2 : $ 240

96

    ASUS TUF SABERTOOTH 990FX R2.0 Socket AM3+ AMD990FX/SB950 Chipset

97

    Dual Channel DDR3 1866 MHz, 4x PCI-Express x16

98

    GLAN, 8x SATA 6.0 Gb/s, 2x eSATA 6.0Gb/s, 4x USB 3.0, 8x USB 2.0

99

ATX

100

101

    Gigabyte :

102

103

    MBGA002151 GA-970A-D3P : Downtown 4 : $ 105

104

    GIGABYTE GA-970A-D3P (rev. 1.0) Socket AM3+ AMD 970+SB950 Chipset

105

    Dual Channel DDR3 2000(O.C.) MHz, 2x PCI-Express x16

106

    GLAN, 6x SATA 6.0 Gb/s, 4x USB 3.0, 14x USB 2.0

107

ATX

108

109

  * MBGA002794 GA-970A-UD3P : Downtown 6 : $ 120

110

    GIGABYTE GA-970A-UD3P (rev. 1.0) Socket AM3+ AMD 970+SB950 Chipset

111

    Dual Channel DDR3 2000(O.C.) MHz, 2x PCI-Express x16

112

    GLAN, 6x SATA 6.0 Gb/s, 4x USB 3.0, 14x USB 2.0

113

ATX

114

115

    MBGA001655 GA-990FXA-UD3 : Downtown 3 : $ 150

116

    GIGABYTE GA-990FXA-UD3 Socket AM3+ AMD 990FX+SB950 Chipset

117

    Dual Channel DDR3 2000(O.C.) MHz, 4x PCI-Express x16

118

    GLAN, 6x SATA 6.0 Gb/s, 2x eSATA 6.0Gb/s, 2x USB 3.0, 8x USB 2.0

119

ATX

120

121

  Memory :

122

123

    RAMK007183 HX318C10FRK2/8 : Downtown 6 : $  67

124

    Kingston HyperX Fury Red 8 GB (2 x 4 GB) DDR3 1866MHz CL10

125

126

    RAMK007147 HX318C10FK2/8 : Downtown 1 : $  67

127

    Kingston HyperX Fury Blue 8 GB (2 x 4 GB) DDR3 1866MHz CL10 DIMMs

128

129

  * RAMK007272 HX318C10FBK2/16 : Downtown 2 : $ 119

130

    Kingston HyperX Fury Black 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR3 1866MHz CL10 DIMMs

131

132

    RAMK007281 HX318C10FRK2/16 : Downtown 6 : $ 120

133

    Kingston HyperX Fury Red 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR3 1866MHz CL10 DIMMs

134

135

    RAMK007263 HX318C10FK2/16 : Downtown 1 : $ 120

136

    Kingston HyperX Fury Blue 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR3 1866MHz CL10 DIMMs

137

138

  Graphix :

139

140

    VCAS002435 GT610-2GD3-CSM : Downtown 2 : $  65

141

    ASUS GeForce GT 610 2 GB DDR3

142

    810 MHz Clock, 1200 MHz Memory

143

    PCI Express 2.0, D-Sub, DVI, HDMI

144

145

    VCAS003034 GT730-SL-1GD3-BRK : Downtown 3 : $  85

146

    ASUS GeForce GT 730 1 GB GDDR3

147

    902 MHz Clock, 900 MHz Memory

148

    PCI Express 2.0, D-Sub/DVI/HDMI

149

150

    VCAS002883 GTX750-PHOC-1GD5 : Downtown 2 : $ 150

151

    ASUS GeForce GTX 750 1 GB GDDR5

152

    1059 MHz Clock, 5010 MHz Memory

153

    PCI-Express 3.0, DVI, HDMI

154

155

  * VCAS002892 GTX750TI-OC-2GD5 : Downtown 2 : $ 170

156

    ASUS GeForce GTX 750 Ti 2 GB GDDR5

157

    1072 MHz Clock, 5400 MHz Memory

158

    PCI-Express 3.0, DVI, HDMI

159

160

  SSD :

161

162

  * SMKT001725 SV300S37A/240GCR : Downtown 10 : $ 110

163

    Kingston SSDNow V300 240 GB 7 mm SATA 6 Gb/s  Read: 450 Write: 450 MB/s 

164

165

  HDD :

166

167

    HDSG002093 ST1000DM003 : Downtown 10 : $  66

168

    Seagate Desktop HDD 1 TB 3.5in SATA3 64 MB Cache OEM

169

170

  * HDSG003374 ST1000DM003 : Downtown 10 : $  58

171

    Seagate Desktop HDD 1 TB 3.5in SATA3 64 MB Cache OEM

172

173

    HDSG002084 ST500DM002 : Downtown 5 : $ 60

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    Seagate Desktop HDD 500 GB 3.5in SATA3 16 MB Cache OEM

175

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  DVD :

177

178

  * DVSS004328 SH-224FB/BSBE : Downtown 4 : $ 22

179

    Samsung (SH-224FB/BSBE) Internal 24x DVD Writer, OEM

180

    Black, SATA, 1.5 MB Buffer

181

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SUPPORT     ___________//___,   Philip Webb

185

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Re: [gentoo-user] new computer : any advice ?	Dale <rdalek1967@×××××.com>
[gentoo-user] Re: new computer : any advice ?	James <wireless@×××××××××××.com>

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1	I've built 4 machines starting in 2000 ,
2	all with parts bought from Canada Computers in downtown Toronto.
3	ANB1 + ANB3 had Intel CPUs, ANB2 + ANB4 have AMD CPUs
4	('ANB' = 'Aristotle's new body', Aristotle being my computer spirit (grin)).
5	ANB1 (2000) went to the recyclers long ago, ANB3 (2007) is a door-stop ;
6	ANB2 (2003) still wakes up, but can't talk to a present-day mouse ;
7	ANB4 (2012) has worked perfectly to date ; ANB2-4 all run Gentoo.
8
9	Since I currently have only 1 usable machine, ie no stand-by,
10	I want to build a new cutting-edge replacement with ANB4 becoming stand-by.
11
12	Below are what I put into ANB4 & what is offered today for ANB5 :
13	I've marked my 1st-take choices with a '*'.
14	Since my AMD machines have been more successful than the Intels,
15	I intend to use an AMD CPU again & anyway they seem to be cheaper & faster.
16	Gigabyte mobos are cheaper & it has been good in ANB4.
17	I've always used Kingston memory with no problems.
18	I want Nvidia graphix & the faster card seems a better choice.
19	SSD HDD DVD drives don't offer much choice, but these seem adequate.
20
21	I use the machine for typical desktop office + personal work :
22	no gaming, no movies, no music (I might try enabling sound in ANB5).
23	Efficient handling of Gentoo emerges is important.
24
25	I am a bit shocked at the big increase in price
26	for a smaller increase in overall performance,
27	but I can afford the parts as described ; prices in CAD, of course.
28
29	ANB4 :
30
31	120823 CPU : AMD Bulldozer X4 FX-4170 4-Core 4,2 GHz 8 MB : 129.99
32	Item CPUA003075 ; Part FD4170FRGUBOX
33	120823 Gigabyte GA-990FXA-UD3 990FX+SB950 1866/1600/1333/1066 : 144.99 M20
34	4x PCI Express x16 Gigabit LAN
35	6x SATA 6GB/s 2x eSATA 6GB/s 4x USB 3.0+ 14x USB 2.0 AM3+ ATX
36	Item MBGA001655 ; Part GA-990FXA-UD3
37	Direct replacement : 1 yr : 15.95
38	120823 Memory : Kingston HyperX 4 GB DDR3 1600 MHz CL9 : 24.99
39	Item RAMK003793 ; Part KHX1600C9D3/4G
40	120823 Graphix : Asus GT520-1GD3-CSM Nv GT520 810 MHz 1 GB : 54.99
41	Item VCAS002280 ; Part GT520-1GD3-CSM
42	120823 SSD : OCZ Vertex4 128 GB SATA3 R 560 MB/s W 430 MB/s : 114.99
43	Item SMOC001080 ; Part VTX4-25SAT3-128G
44	120823 HDD : Seagate Barracuda SATA3 500 GB 16 MB 6 Gb/s : 69.99
45	Item HDSG002084 ; Part ST500DM002
46	Ont recycle fee : 0.05
47	120823 Case : Thermal Master TC-102 ATX Tower 500 W : 42.99
48
49	subtotal : 598.93
50	tax : 77.86
51	total : 676.79
52
53	ANB5 :
54
55	CPU : AMD :
56
57	CPUA003145 FD8320FRHKBOX : Downtown 4 : $ 205
58	X8 FX-8320 (125 W) 8-Core Socket AM3+ 3.5 GHz 8 Mb Cache 32 nm
59
60	CPUA003140 FD8350FRHKBOX : Downtown 6 : $ 239
61	X8 FX-8350 (125 W) 8-Core Socket AM3+ 4 GHz 8 Mb Cache 32 nm
62
63	CPUA003445 FD837EWMHKBOX : Downtown 3 : $ 269
64	X8 FX-8370E (95 W) 8-Core Socket AM3+ 4.3 GHz 8 Mb Cache 32 nm
65
66	* CPUA003454 FD8370FRHKBOX : Downtown 1 : $ 279
67	X8 FX-8370 (125 W) 8-Core Socket AM3+ 4.3 GHz 16 Mb Cache 32 nm
68
69	Mobo : Asus :
70
71	MBAS003960 M5A97 LE R2.0 : Downtown 5 : $ 95
72	ASUS M5A97 LE R2.0 Socket AM3+ AMD 970/SB950 Chipset
73	Dual Channel DDR3 2133(O.C.) MHz, 2x PCI-Express x16
74	GLAN, 6x SATA 6.0 Gb/s, 2x USB 3.0, 6x USB 2.0
75	ATX
76
77	MBAS003965 M5A97 R2.0 : Downtown 2 : $ 130
78	ASUS M5A97 R2.0 Socket AM3+ AMD 970/SB950 Chipset
79	Dual Channel DDR3 2133(O.C.) MHz, 2x PCI-Express x16
80	GLAN, 6x SATA 6.0 Gb/s, 2x USB 3.0, 6x USB 2.0
81	ATX
82
83	MBAS004035 M5A99X EVO R2.0 : Downtown 2 : $ 145
84	ASUS M5A99X EVO R2.0 Socket AM3+ AMD 990X/SB950 Chipset
85	Dual Channel DDR3 2133(O.C.) MHz, 3x PCI-Express x16
86	GLAN, 6x SATA 6.0 Gb/s, 2x eSATA 6.0Gb/s, 2x USB 3.0, 8x USB 2.0
87	ATX
88
89	MBAS003885 M5A99FX PRO R2.0 : Downtown 3 : $ 160
90	ASUS M5A99FX PRO R2.0 Socket AM3+ AMD 990FX/SB950 Chipset
91	Dual Channel DDR3 2133(O.C.) MHz, 4x PCI-Express x16
92	GLAN, 7x SATA 6.0 Gb/s, 1x eSATA, 2x USB 3.0, 8x USB 2.0
93	ATX
94
95	MBAS003995 SABERTOOTH 990FX R2.0 : Downtown 2 : $ 240
96	ASUS TUF SABERTOOTH 990FX R2.0 Socket AM3+ AMD990FX/SB950 Chipset
97	Dual Channel DDR3 1866 MHz, 4x PCI-Express x16
98	GLAN, 8x SATA 6.0 Gb/s, 2x eSATA 6.0Gb/s, 4x USB 3.0, 8x USB 2.0
99	ATX
100
101	Gigabyte :
102
103	MBGA002151 GA-970A-D3P : Downtown 4 : $ 105
104	GIGABYTE GA-970A-D3P (rev. 1.0) Socket AM3+ AMD 970+SB950 Chipset
105	Dual Channel DDR3 2000(O.C.) MHz, 2x PCI-Express x16
106	GLAN, 6x SATA 6.0 Gb/s, 4x USB 3.0, 14x USB 2.0
107	ATX
108
109	* MBGA002794 GA-970A-UD3P : Downtown 6 : $ 120
110	GIGABYTE GA-970A-UD3P (rev. 1.0) Socket AM3+ AMD 970+SB950 Chipset
111	Dual Channel DDR3 2000(O.C.) MHz, 2x PCI-Express x16
112	GLAN, 6x SATA 6.0 Gb/s, 4x USB 3.0, 14x USB 2.0
113	ATX
114
115	MBGA001655 GA-990FXA-UD3 : Downtown 3 : $ 150
116	GIGABYTE GA-990FXA-UD3 Socket AM3+ AMD 990FX+SB950 Chipset
117	Dual Channel DDR3 2000(O.C.) MHz, 4x PCI-Express x16
118	GLAN, 6x SATA 6.0 Gb/s, 2x eSATA 6.0Gb/s, 2x USB 3.0, 8x USB 2.0
119	ATX
120
121	Memory :
122
123	RAMK007183 HX318C10FRK2/8 : Downtown 6 : $ 67
124	Kingston HyperX Fury Red 8 GB (2 x 4 GB) DDR3 1866MHz CL10
125
126	RAMK007147 HX318C10FK2/8 : Downtown 1 : $ 67
127	Kingston HyperX Fury Blue 8 GB (2 x 4 GB) DDR3 1866MHz CL10 DIMMs
128
129	* RAMK007272 HX318C10FBK2/16 : Downtown 2 : $ 119
130	Kingston HyperX Fury Black 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR3 1866MHz CL10 DIMMs
131
132	RAMK007281 HX318C10FRK2/16 : Downtown 6 : $ 120
133	Kingston HyperX Fury Red 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR3 1866MHz CL10 DIMMs
134
135	RAMK007263 HX318C10FK2/16 : Downtown 1 : $ 120
136	Kingston HyperX Fury Blue 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR3 1866MHz CL10 DIMMs
137
138	Graphix :
139
140	VCAS002435 GT610-2GD3-CSM : Downtown 2 : $ 65
141	ASUS GeForce GT 610 2 GB DDR3
142	810 MHz Clock, 1200 MHz Memory
143	PCI Express 2.0, D-Sub, DVI, HDMI
144
145	VCAS003034 GT730-SL-1GD3-BRK : Downtown 3 : $ 85
146	ASUS GeForce GT 730 1 GB GDDR3
147	902 MHz Clock, 900 MHz Memory
148	PCI Express 2.0, D-Sub/DVI/HDMI
149
150	VCAS002883 GTX750-PHOC-1GD5 : Downtown 2 : $ 150
151	ASUS GeForce GTX 750 1 GB GDDR5
152	1059 MHz Clock, 5010 MHz Memory
153	PCI-Express 3.0, DVI, HDMI
154
155	* VCAS002892 GTX750TI-OC-2GD5 : Downtown 2 : $ 170
156	ASUS GeForce GTX 750 Ti 2 GB GDDR5
157	1072 MHz Clock, 5400 MHz Memory
158	PCI-Express 3.0, DVI, HDMI
159
160	SSD :
161
162	* SMKT001725 SV300S37A/240GCR : Downtown 10 : $ 110
163	Kingston SSDNow V300 240 GB 7 mm SATA 6 Gb/s Read: 450 Write: 450 MB/s
164
165	HDD :
166
167	HDSG002093 ST1000DM003 : Downtown 10 : $ 66
168	Seagate Desktop HDD 1 TB 3.5in SATA3 64 MB Cache OEM
169
170	* HDSG003374 ST1000DM003 : Downtown 10 : $ 58
171	Seagate Desktop HDD 1 TB 3.5in SATA3 64 MB Cache OEM
172
173	HDSG002084 ST500DM002 : Downtown 5 : $ 60
174	Seagate Desktop HDD 500 GB 3.5in SATA3 16 MB Cache OEM
175
176	DVD :
177
178	* DVSS004328 SH-224FB/BSBE : Downtown 4 : $ 22
179	Samsung (SH-224FB/BSBE) Internal 24x DVD Writer, OEM
180	Black, SATA, 1.5 MB Buffer
181
182	--
183	========================,,============================================
184	SUPPORT ___________//___, Philip Webb
185	ELECTRIC /] [] [] [] [] []\| Cities Centre, University of Toronto
186	TRANSIT `-O----------O---' purslowatchassdotutorontodotca