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From: Caveman Al Toraboran <toraboracaveman@××××××××××.com>
To: "gentoo-user@l.g.o" <gentoo-user@l.g.o>
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] tuning desktop appearance for legibility
Date: Thu, 03 Sep 2020 17:45:06
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In Reply to: [gentoo-user] tuning desktop appearance for legibility by John Blinka
1 ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐
2 On Thursday, September 3, 2020 6:50 PM, John Blinka <john.blinka@×××××.com> wrote:
3
4 > Hi, Everyone,
5
6 hello big dawg!
7
8 quick point: imo the problem of gray texts on
9 white backgrounds, or scrollbars or whatever, that
10 you have, is not related to aging. imo it's
11 rather related to stupid web developers. not even
12 a mutant with infrared vision can use these
13 websites.
14
15
16 > 1) How  do you cope with this problem?
17
18 i cope by these:
19
20 - use pixel-based fonts for everything as much
21 as possible, specially for key apps like:
22 terminal, window manager and browser.
23
24 they become so much readable. i use
25 "terminus-font" (and previously used "dina")
26 in my urxvt as well as my other apps as much
27 as i can.
28
29 i notice one of the major problems with
30 fonts is actually not our eyes, but in many
31 cases how fancy fonts blur. i was
32 personally amazed by how i could use much
33 smaller fonts, while maintaining
34 readability, by simply switching to
35 pixel-based fonts, such as terminus.
36
37 - for my browser, i use custom user css for
38 different modes. i also configured
39 shortcuts for my browser, so that i change
40 these user css files based on which ones
41 work best with the site. generally, i have
42 "night.css" and "wiki.css" that i change by
43 keyboard shortcuts. the "night.css" is very
44 generic and changes background/foreground
45 texts for pretty much 90% of sites properly.
46
47 this way, i am no longer bound by bad colors
48 chosen by web designers.
49
50 - i use i3 as window manager, with lots of
51 shortcuts. i also use qutebrowser (a
52 browser with good vim shortcuts).
53
54 this way, throughout the day, i rarely end
55 up needing to use the mouse to do things. i
56 only use the mouse for ultra quirky websites
57 with fancy javascript links that are not
58 clickable by qutebrowser's shortcuts.
59
60 so thanks to using keyboard shortcuts, a
61 website can have thin gray scrollbar on a
62 gray background and i don't care. because i
63 scroll by shortcuts, not by bars. in fact,
64 my qutebrowser's interface has scrollbars
65 disabled altogether to use pixels, which i
66 paid dear money for, for real use.
67
68
69 > 2) Is there an xfce theme and icon package you
70 > recommend?  Or maybe something other than xfce? 
71 > I like xfce, and have never been attracted to
72 > integrated desktops like kde and gnome, but if
73 > they’ve got a credible solution, I’m willing to
74 > try.
75
76 i would suggest try keyboard-based window
77 managers. my 1st suggestion is i3. it's actually
78 perfectly usable for all applications. it's
79 tiling-based, but also has floating functionality,
80 and does a fine job eliminating need of clicking
81 around on tiny things.
82
83 > 3) Are there lower level ways of tweaking my
84 > current desktop?  For example, changing colors
85 > in the 2 examples I gave above from black on
86 > dark gray to black on white?  Could that be done
87 > with a little judicious editing of color
88 > settings somewhere, or adjusting colors on an
89 > icon?  I don’t know how desktop appearances are
90 > programmed, so I don’t know where on the
91 > spectrum of trivial->apocalyptic this lies.
92
93 user style sheets. maybe have a look here
94 (i also talked about it above):
95 https://userstyles.org/styles/browse/css
96
97 or, if you dislike fiddling with these, maybe some
98 use some browser add-ons that offer things like
99 "night mode", or "contrast mode", by which they
100 apply their own custom styling to fix mistakes of
101 web designers.
102
103
104 -------------------------------------------------
105 optional/offtopic: extra text if you have coffee
106 -------------------------------------------------
107 i think this problem that we have could've been
108 avoided if the web was originally designed to only
109 deliver content, without any power to dictate
110 appearance, so that appearance is 100% a task that
111 a local client should choose.
112
113 imo this could've been done easily, because
114 websites in the internet follow a finite number of
115 "document classes" (if we call them so). the vast
116 unique changes that web designers make are just
117 pointless.
118
119 if the web was designed this way, then today we
120 would've had a much happier time of achieving 100%
121 consistent look for all websites optimized for our
122 readability. but too bad, that is not done, so we
123 have to use custom user style sheets which works
124 for most of the time.
125
126 for people who really want js and fancy rendering,
127 they could use a separate app for their "instant
128 js games". there is absolutely no reason why the
129 entirety of the web has to be so turing-complete
130 just because someone wants to play games.

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Re: [gentoo-user] tuning desktop appearance for legibility John Blinka <john.blinka@×××××.com>
Re: [gentoo-user] tuning desktop appearance for legibility Wols Lists <antlists@××××××××××××.uk>