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From: Grant Edwards <grant.b.edwards@×××××.com>
To: gentoo-user@l.g.o
Subject: [gentoo-user] Re: [OT] Re: Re: Grub2 and is the upgrade a tooth puller.
Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2012 14:54:28
Message-Id: jsn3qt$7n6$1@dough.gmane.org
In Reply to: [OT] Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Grub2 and is the upgrade a tooth puller. by Peter Humphrey
1 On 2012-06-30, Peter Humphrey <peter@××××××××××××××.org> wrote:
2 > On Friday 29 June 2012 21:46:20 Grant Edwards wrote:
3 >
4 >> Things have been going steadily downhill since the days of V7 on a
5 >> PDP-11 with 256K words of RAM, a 20MB hard drive and uucp via dial-up
6 >> modems for "networking". Real programmers didn't _need_ more that
7 >> 64k of text and 64k data to get the job done.
8 >
9 > Sorry, but that's just bloat. When I joined the software development
10 > effort on the national grid control system in 1980 (I was the third of
11 > three) we had two Ferranti Argus 500 computers, one on-line and one
12 > standby, each with 32KB RAM (twice as much as the same machines had at
13 > the newly commissioning AGR power stations)
14
15 Touche!
16
17 > The displays were graphic stroke writers, as used in submarines and
18 > other warships - none of that nasty raster technology. I think the
19 > display drivers were more complex than the CPUs - all that D-A
20 > conversion of multiple values at once. Can you imagine X and Y
21 > amplifiers to drive a spot in a circle - and meet up?
22
23 That's actually pretty trivial: Feed a sine wave into X and cosine
24 into Y. AC amplitude controls size, DC offsets control position.
25 Hint: cosine is just sine phase shifted by 90 degrees, so you can do
26 that with a single resistor and capacitor.
27
28 > Then a display full of them.
29
30 Been there, done that. :)
31
32 It was one of the standard junior-level homework lab assignements when
33 I was in College back around 1980: design, build, and demonstrate a
34 circuit that would display the contents of a 2716 EPROM (in binary) on
35 an X-Y vector display (e.g. oscilloscope). It's not as hard as you
36 might think. All it takes is a a counter, a half-dozen gates, and
37 about three op-amps. It fit on one of these proto-boards:
38
39 http://www.busboard.us/photos/BPS-IMG-BB830.jpg
40
41 IIRC, it displayed one byte per line (eight '1' or '0' characters),
42 eight bytes per "page". It used a dip-switch to select what "page"
43 from the EPROM to display. Expanding the 8x8 display to something
44 like 128x64 would just require slightly longer counters.
45
46 --
47 Grant

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