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From: Michael Hampicke <gentoo-user@××××.biz>
To: gentoo-user@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Advice about ati-drivers? [50% SOLVED]
Date: Tue, 03 Apr 2012 13:57:16
Message-Id: 4F7B0133.7010801@hadt.biz
In Reply to: [gentoo-user] Re: Advice about ati-drivers? [50% SOLVED] by Nikos Chantziaras
1 Am 03.04.2012 13:28, schrieb Nikos Chantziaras:
2 > On 03/04/12 03:16, Michael Hampicke wrote:
3 >>> However, now that the firmware loading problem is fixed, my screen still
4 >>> goes
5 >>> black on bootup. But now it's instantaneous instead of 60 seconds
6 >>> delayed :(
7 >>>
8 >>> I'm back to functioning vesa mode if I boot with radeon.memset=0, but
9 >>> that's
10 >>> not really my goal...yet :p
11 >>
12 >> Last time I reinstalled gentoo, I tried kms too (with my Radeon HD2600
13 >> card). And I had lots of problems with it - in combination with
14 >> ati-drivers fglrx module (blank on boot, freeze while starting X,
15 >> generell crashes and kernel panics, low performence...,...). So I
16 >> finally decided not to use kms disable everything related to kms. Since
17 >> then everything is running smoothly. Two weeks ago, I purchased an new
18 >> video card (Radeon HD7770) and gave kms another shot. And again,
19 >> everything went down the crapper. So disabled it. I can live without it
20 >> for the time being. But still, I would be interested in the "why?".
21 >
22 > You cannot use two drivers at once. Either use the kernel driver (which
23 > does KMS), or ati-drivers. You cannot mix drivers. Not in Linux, and
24 > not in any other OS I'm aware of.
25 >
26 >
27
28 Seems like there have been some changes on that subject in time. Keep
29 in mind, up until a few months ago I was running Windows7 on my
30 workstation. I'm not new to linux, as I've been using linux on servers
31 since a very long time, but the whole X stuff is kinda new for me.
32
33 In the past I always experimented with linux in dual boot, and I vaguely
34 recall that there were (or are?) different kinds of video drivers on
35 linux. You had the drivers provided by the kernel, the drivers of Xorg -
36 like xf86-video-ati - and third party drivers like ati-drivers fglrx.
37 And now there's kms too, which I understand is not a driver, but a means
38 for the kernel to setup the driver itself (resolution, color depth).
39
40 So, if I now use the kernels radeon driver, i could use kms, but cannot
41 use xf86-video-ati or fglrx, if I use xf86-video-ati or fglrx, I cannot
42 use kms?
43
44 It would be great if someone could link me to some reading material on
45 that subject. Something that explains, the difference between kernel
46 video drivers, framebuffer console, Xorg video drivers and 3rd party
47 drivers.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Advice about ati-drivers? [50% SOLVED] Michael Mol <mikemol@×××××.com>