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From: Dale <rdalek1967@...>
Subject: Re: Re: After /usr conflation: why not copy booting software to /sbin rather than initramfs?
Date: Mon, 02 Apr 2012 02:41:12 -0500
Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
<<< SNIP >>>
> I'm a little confused: you log in KDE as a regular user, open a
> Konsole, type "su -", and what happens?
> 
> What do you mean with "Konsole won't even try to come up"?
> 
> In the shell that Krusader provides (which I assume you run as a
> regular user), what it's the result of "which su"? And also, what
> happens when (inside the shell from Krusader) you run /bin/su?
> 
> If not for the fact that you say that in a virtual console su works, I
> would be willing to suggest that your initramfs never does the
> switch_root, and so you end up with the minimal / from the initramfs,
> and your normal /usr. That would be beyond bizarre, but if you *can*
> use su in a virtual console, then it should be there.
> 
> I usally log in in GNOME, open a gnome-terminal, and set a fixed
> number of tabs in gnome-terminal where I "su -", and work as root in
> there. I also can run an X11 program as root with "su -lc
> /usr/bin/gedit", but I almost never do that (although it works; I just
> checked).
> 
> I don't think I understand how do you use su. Could you explain it to
> me, please?
> 
> One last thing: create a  directory /tmp/whatever, and inside it
> unpack your initramfs:
> 
> zcat /boot/init-thingie | cpio -i
> 
> Could you do a "ls -R /tmp/whatever" so we can see what actually ends
> up in yout initramfs?
> 
> Regards.


Actually, I log into KDE as a user and when Konsole opens, it asks for
the root password.  I have the KDE session saved so it opens all this on
its own.  Anyway, since I have it set that way, Konsole never opens, I
assume because it can't find the su command.  I have been doing it this
way since back in the KDE3 days.  It has never done this before.

I finally got around to rebooting to check on this, hence the delay in
replying, and found this in the boot up process, the stuff that scrolls
up the screen.  I'm having to type this in since it is NOT in dmesg or
the logs but just printed on the screen.


dracut: switching root
switch_root: failed to mount moving /dev to /sysroot/dev: Invaild argument
switch_root: forcing unmount of /dev
switch_root: failed to unlink dev: Directory not empty
INIT: version 2.88 booting


Keep in mind, the three middle lines with the problems are NOT shown in
dmesg, messages or anywhere else but the screen.  I had to boot with nox
to even see this.  This is what ticks me on this mess.  With the way it
logs things, you better hope you got video buffer to scroll up with or
you don't get to see the failure.

Also, while booted with the init thingy, I made sure the real /
partition was mounted.  It shows sda3 was mounted and based on the space
used, I believe it.  I got to clean out some old kernels pretty soon.  ;-)

I'm attaching the results from the ls command.  It's a bit lengthy.  o_O

Thanks.  Sorry for the delay.

Dale

:-)  :-)

-- 
I am only responsible for what I said ... Not for what you understood or
how you interpreted my words!

Miss the compile output?  Hint:
EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS="--quiet-build=n"
root@fireball /tmp/whatever # ls -R /tmp/whatever
/tmp/whatever:
total 22
drwxr-xr-x 15 root root   432 Apr  2 02:33 .
drwxrwxrwt 10 root root   376 Apr  2 02:32 ..
drwxr-xr-x  2 root root   576 Apr  2 02:33 bin
drwxr-xr-x  2 root root    48 Apr  2 02:33 dev
drwxr-xr-x  7 root root   432 Apr  2 02:33 etc
-rwxr-xr-x  1 root root 12622 Apr  2 02:33 init
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root     5 Apr  2 02:33 lib -> lib64
drwxr-xr-x  5 root root  1072 Apr  2 02:33 lib64
drwxr-xr-x  2 root root    48 Apr  2 02:33 proc
drwxr-xr-x  2 root root    48 Apr  2 02:33 root
drwxr-xr-x  5 root root   128 Apr  2 02:33 run
drwxr-xr-x  2 root root   440 Apr  2 02:33 sbin
-rwxr-xr-x  1 root root  2547 Apr  2 02:33 shutdown
drwxr-xr-x  2 root root    48 Apr  2 02:33 sys
drwxr-xr-x  2 root root    48 Apr  2 02:33 sysroot
drwxr-xr-x  2 root root    48 Apr  2 02:33 tmp
drwxr-xr-x  6 root root   144 Apr  2 02:33 usr
drwxr-xr-x  3 root root   120 Apr  2 02:33 var

/tmp/whatever/bin:
total 1313
drwxr-xr-x  2 root root    576 Apr  2 02:33 .
drwxr-xr-x 15 root root    432 Apr  2 02:33 ..
-rwxr-xr-x  1 root root  31024 Apr  2 02:33 basename
-rwxr-xr-x  1 root root  55840 Apr  2 02:33 cat
-rwxr-xr-x  1 root root  35216 Apr  2 02:33 chroot
-rwxr-xr-x  1 root root 113440 Apr  2 02:33 cp
-rwxr-xr-x  1 root root 109688 Apr  2 02:33 dash
-rwxr-xr-x  1 root root  22736 Apr  2 02:33 dmesg
-rwxr-xr-x  1 root root  55776 Apr  2 02:33 ln
-rwxr-xr-x  1 root root 113872 Apr  2 02:33 ls
-rwxr-xr-x  1 root root  55760 Apr  2 02:33 mkdir
-rwxr-xr-x  1 root root  35120 Apr  2 02:33 mkfifo
-rwxr-xr-x  1 root root  39248 Apr  2 02:33 mknod
-rws--x--x  1 root root 102984 Apr  2 02:33 mount
-rwxr-xr-x  1 root root 101120 Apr  2 02:33 mv
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root     16 Apr  2 02:33 pidof -> ../sbin/killall5
-rwxr-xr-x  1 root root  47520 Apr  2 02:33 readlink
-rwxr-xr-x  1 root root  63984 Apr  2 02:33 rm
-rwxr-xr-x  1 root root 134504 Apr  2 02:33 sed
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root      4 Apr  2 02:33 sh -> dash
-rwxr-xr-x  1 root root  35120 Apr  2 02:33 sleep
-rwxr-xr-x  1 root root  72112 Apr  2 02:33 stty
-rws--x--x  1 root root  52416 Apr  2 02:33 umount
-rwxr-xr-x  1 root root  35168 Apr  2 02:33 uname

/tmp/whatever/dev:
total 0
drwxr-xr-x  2 root root  48 Apr  2 02:33 .
drwxr-xr-x 15 root root 432 Apr  2 02:33 ..

/tmp/whatever/etc:
total 28
drwxr-xr-x  7 root root  432 Apr  2 02:33 .
drwxr-xr-x 15 root root  432 Apr  2 02:33 ..
drwxr-xr-x  2 root root   48 Apr  2 02:33 cmdline.d
-rw-r--r--  1 root root  138 Apr  2 02:33 e2fsck.conf
-rw-r--r--  1 root root    0 Apr  2 02:33 fstab.empty
-rw-r--r--  1 root root  983 Apr  2 02:33 group
-rw-r--r--  1 root root 1070 Apr  2 02:33 ld.so.cache
-rw-r--r--  1 root root  519 Apr  2 02:33 ld.so.conf
drwxr-xr-x  2 root root  128 Apr  2 02:33 ld.so.conf.d
-rw-r--r--  1 root root   38 Apr  2 02:33 locale.conf
drwxr-xr-x  2 root root  304 Apr  2 02:33 modprobe.d
-rw-r--r--  1 root root   67 Apr  2 02:33 passwd
drwxr-xr-x  9 root root  216 Apr  2 02:33 terminfo
drwxr-xr-x  3 root root  104 Apr  2 02:33 udev
-rw-r--r--  1 root root   43 Apr  2 02:33 vconsole.conf

/tmp/whatever/etc/cmdline.d:
total 0
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root  48 Apr  2 02:33 .
drwxr-xr-x 7 root root 432 Apr  2 02:33 ..

/tmp/whatever/etc/ld.so.conf.d:
total 8
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 128 Apr  2 02:33 .
drwxr-xr-x 7 root root 432 Apr  2 02:33 ..
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root  29 Apr  2 02:33 05binutils.conf
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 243 Apr  2 02:33 05gcc-x86_64-pc-linux-gnu.conf

/tmp/whatever/etc/modprobe.d:
total 32
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root  304 Apr  2 02:33 .
drwxr-xr-x 7 root root  432 Apr  2 02:33 ..
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1216 Apr  2 02:33 aliases.conf
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1028 Apr  2 02:33 alsa.conf
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root  950 Apr  2 02:33 blacklist.conf
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root  122 Apr  2 02:33 i386.conf
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root  650 Apr  2 02:33 nvidia.conf
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root  537 Apr  2 02:33 pnp-aliases.conf
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root  299 Apr  2 02:33 ppp.conf
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root  196 Apr  2 02:33 usb-load-ehci-first.conf

/tmp/whatever/etc/terminfo:
total 0
drwxr-xr-x 9 root root 216 Apr  2 02:33 .
drwxr-xr-x 7 root root 432 Apr  2 02:33 ..
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root  72 Apr  2 02:33 a
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root  72 Apr  2 02:33 d
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root  72 Apr  2 02:33 l
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 104 Apr  2 02:33 r
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root  96 Apr  2 02:33 s
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 144 Apr  2 02:33 v
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 136 Apr  2 02:33 x

/tmp/whatever/etc/terminfo/a:
total 4
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root   72 Apr  2 02:33 .
drwxr-xr-x 9 root root  216 Apr  2 02:33 ..
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1481 Apr  2 02:33 ansi

/tmp/whatever/etc/terminfo/d:
total 4
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root  72 Apr  2 02:33 .
drwxr-xr-x 9 root root 216 Apr  2 02:33 ..
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 308 Apr  2 02:33 dumb

/tmp/whatever/etc/terminfo/l:
total 4
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root   72 Apr  2 02:33 .
drwxr-xr-x 9 root root  216 Apr  2 02:33 ..
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1790 Apr  2 02:33 linux

/tmp/whatever/etc/terminfo/r:
total 8
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root  104 Apr  2 02:33 .
drwxr-xr-x 9 root root  216 Apr  2 02:33 ..
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 2285 Apr  2 02:33 rxvt
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 2199 Apr  2 02:33 rxvt-unicode

/tmp/whatever/etc/terminfo/s:
total 8
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root   96 Apr  2 02:33 .
drwxr-xr-x 9 root root  216 Apr  2 02:33 ..
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1564 Apr  2 02:33 screen
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root  997 Apr  2 02:33 sun

/tmp/whatever/etc/terminfo/v:
total 16
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root  144 Apr  2 02:33 .
drwxr-xr-x 9 root root  216 Apr  2 02:33 ..
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1194 Apr  2 02:33 vt100
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1188 Apr  2 02:33 vt102
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1279 Apr  2 02:33 vt220
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root  470 Apr  2 02:33 vt52

/tmp/whatever/etc/terminfo/x:
total 12
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root  136 Apr  2 02:33 .
drwxr-xr-x 9 root root  216 Apr  2 02:33 ..
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 3270 Apr  2 02:33 xterm
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1551 Apr  2 02:33 xterm-color
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 2247 Apr  2 02:33 xterm-xfree86

/tmp/whatever/etc/udev:
total 4
drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 104 Apr  2 02:33 .
drwxr-xr-x 7 root root 432 Apr  2 02:33 ..
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 208 Apr  2 02:33 rules.d
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 277 Apr  2 02:33 udev.conf

/tmp/whatever/etc/udev/rules.d:
total 16
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root  208 Apr  2 02:33 .
drwxr-xr-x 3 root root  104 Apr  2 02:33 ..
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root   68 Apr  2 02:33 01-ignore.rules
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root  107 Apr  2 02:33 10-console.rules
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1409 Apr  2 02:33 59-persistent-storage.rules
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root  914 Apr  2 02:33 61-persistent-storage.rules

/tmp/whatever/lib64:
total 2967
drwxr-xr-x  5 root root    1072 Apr  2 02:33 .
drwxr-xr-x 15 root root     432 Apr  2 02:33 ..
drwxr-xr-x  3 root root      72 Apr  2 02:33 dracut
-rwxr-xr-x  1 root root   18092 Apr  2 02:33 dracut-lib.sh
-rwxr-xr-x  1 root root    6882 Apr  2 02:33 fs-lib.sh
-rwxr-xr-x  1 root root  136616 Apr  2 02:33 ld-2.13.so
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root      10 Apr  2 02:33 ld-linux-x86-64.so.2 -> ld-2.13.so
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root      17 Apr  2 02:33 libblkid.so.1 -> libblkid.so.1.1.0
-rwxr-xr-x  1 root root  159568 Apr  2 02:33 libblkid.so.1.1.0
-rwxr-xr-x  1 root root 1621200 Apr  2 02:33 libc-2.13.so
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root      17 Apr  2 02:33 libcom_err.so.2 -> libcom_err.so.2.1
-rwxr-xr-x  1 root root   14464 Apr  2 02:33 libcom_err.so.2.1
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root      12 Apr  2 02:33 libc.so.6 -> libc-2.13.so
-rwxr-xr-x  1 root root   14512 Apr  2 02:33 libdl-2.13.so
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root      13 Apr  2 02:33 libdl.so.2 -> libdl-2.13.so
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root      13 Apr  2 02:33 libe2p.so.2 -> libe2p.so.2.3
-rwxr-xr-x  1 root root   32144 Apr  2 02:33 libe2p.so.2.3
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root      16 Apr  2 02:33 libext2fs.so.2 -> libext2fs.so.2.4
-rwxr-xr-x  1 root root  267968 Apr  2 02:33 libext2fs.so.2.4
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root      18 Apr  2 02:33 libncursesw.so.5 -> libncursesw.so.5.9
-rwxr-xr-x  1 root root  399568 Apr  2 02:33 libncursesw.so.5.9
-rwxr-xr-x  1 root root   51544 Apr  2 02:33 libnss_files-2.13.so
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root      20 Apr  2 02:33 libnss_files.so.2 -> libnss_files-2.13.so
-rwxr-xr-x  1 root root  135557 Apr  2 02:33 libpthread-2.13.so
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root      18 Apr  2 02:33 libpthread.so.0 -> libpthread-2.13.so
-rwxr-xr-x  1 root root   35656 Apr  2 02:33 librt-2.13.so
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root      13 Apr  2 02:33 librt.so.1 -> librt-2.13.so
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root      16 Apr  2 02:33 libuuid.so.1 -> libuuid.so.1.3.0
-rwxr-xr-x  1 root root   18784 Apr  2 02:33 libuuid.so.1.3.0
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root      13 Apr  2 02:33 libz.so.1 -> libz.so.1.2.5
-rwxr-xr-x  1 root root   96632 Apr  2 02:33 libz.so.1.2.5
drwxr-xr-x  3 root root      80 Apr  2 02:33 modules
drwxr-xr-x  3 root root     336 Apr  2 02:33 udev

/tmp/whatever/lib64/dracut:
total 1
drwxr-xr-x  3 root root   72 Apr  2 02:33 .
drwxr-xr-x  5 root root 1072 Apr  2 02:33 ..
drwxr-xr-x 14 root root  392 Apr  2 02:33 hooks

/tmp/whatever/lib64/dracut/hooks:
total 0
drwxr-xr-x 14 root root 392 Apr  2 02:33 .
drwxr-xr-x  3 root root  72 Apr  2 02:33 ..
drwxr-xr-x  2 root root  48 Apr  2 02:33 cleanup
drwxr-xr-x  2 root root 232 Apr  2 02:33 cmdline
drwxr-xr-x  2 root root  48 Apr  2 02:33 emergency
drwxr-xr-x  5 root root 120 Apr  2 02:33 initqueue
drwxr-xr-x  2 root root 112 Apr  2 02:33 mount
drwxr-xr-x  2 root root  48 Apr  2 02:33 netroot
drwxr-xr-x  2 root root  48 Apr  2 02:33 pre-mount
drwxr-xr-x  2 root root  80 Apr  2 02:33 pre-pivot
drwxr-xr-x  2 root root  48 Apr  2 02:33 pre-trigger
drwxr-xr-x  2 root root 128 Apr  2 02:33 pre-udev
drwxr-xr-x  2 root root  48 Apr  2 02:33 shutdown
drwxr-xr-x  2 root root  48 Apr  2 02:33 shutdown-emergency

/tmp/whatever/lib64/dracut/hooks/cleanup:
total 0
drwxr-xr-x  2 root root  48 Apr  2 02:33 .
drwxr-xr-x 14 root root 392 Apr  2 02:33 ..

/tmp/whatever/lib64/dracut/hooks/cmdline:
total 20
drwxr-xr-x  2 root root  232 Apr  2 02:33 .
drwxr-xr-x 14 root root  392 Apr  2 02:33 ..
-rwxr-xr-x  1 root root  729 Apr  2 02:33 01parse-kernel.sh
-rwxr-xr-x  1 root root  542 Apr  2 02:33 10parse-resume.sh
-rwxr-xr-x  1 root root  374 Apr  2 02:33 10parse-root-opts.sh
-rwxr-xr-x  1 root root 1395 Apr  2 02:33 20parse-i18n.sh
-rwxr-xr-x  1 root root  512 Apr  2 02:33 95parse-block.sh

/tmp/whatever/lib64/dracut/hooks/emergency:
total 0
drwxr-xr-x  2 root root  48 Apr  2 02:33 .
drwxr-xr-x 14 root root 392 Apr  2 02:33 ..

/tmp/whatever/lib64/dracut/hooks/initqueue:
total 0
drwxr-xr-x  5 root root 120 Apr  2 02:33 .
drwxr-xr-x 14 root root 392 Apr  2 02:33 ..
drwxr-xr-x  2 root root  48 Apr  2 02:33 finished
drwxr-xr-x  2 root root  48 Apr  2 02:33 settled
drwxr-xr-x  2 root root  48 Apr  2 02:33 timeout

/tmp/whatever/lib64/dracut/hooks/initqueue/finished:
total 0
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root  48 Apr  2 02:33 .
drwxr-xr-x 5 root root 120 Apr  2 02:33 ..

/tmp/whatever/lib64/dracut/hooks/initqueue/settled:
total 0
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root  48 Apr  2 02:33 .
drwxr-xr-x 5 root root 120 Apr  2 02:33 ..

/tmp/whatever/lib64/dracut/hooks/initqueue/timeout:
total 0
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root  48 Apr  2 02:33 .
drwxr-xr-x 5 root root 120 Apr  2 02:33 ..

/tmp/whatever/lib64/dracut/hooks/mount:
total 8
drwxr-xr-x  2 root root  112 Apr  2 02:33 .
drwxr-xr-x 14 root root  392 Apr  2 02:33 ..
-rwxr-xr-x  1 root root  668 Apr  2 02:33 10resume.sh
-rwxr-xr-x  1 root root 3726 Apr  2 02:33 99mount-root.sh

/tmp/whatever/lib64/dracut/hooks/netroot:
total 0
drwxr-xr-x  2 root root  48 Apr  2 02:33 .
drwxr-xr-x 14 root root 392 Apr  2 02:33 ..

/tmp/whatever/lib64/dracut/hooks/pre-mount:
total 0
drwxr-xr-x  2 root root  48 Apr  2 02:33 .
drwxr-xr-x 14 root root 392 Apr  2 02:33 ..

/tmp/whatever/lib64/dracut/hooks/pre-pivot:
total 4
drwxr-xr-x  2 root root   80 Apr  2 02:33 .
drwxr-xr-x 14 root root  392 Apr  2 02:33 ..
-rwxr-xr-x  1 root root 2366 Apr  2 02:33 50mount-usr.sh

/tmp/whatever/lib64/dracut/hooks/pre-trigger:
total 0
drwxr-xr-x  2 root root  48 Apr  2 02:33 .
drwxr-xr-x 14 root root 392 Apr  2 02:33 ..

/tmp/whatever/lib64/dracut/hooks/pre-udev:
total 8
drwxr-xr-x  2 root root  128 Apr  2 02:33 .
drwxr-xr-x 14 root root  392 Apr  2 02:33 ..
-rwxr-xr-x  1 root root  579 Apr  2 02:33 30block-genrules.sh
-rwxr-xr-x  1 root root 2316 Apr  2 02:33 30resume-genrules.sh

/tmp/whatever/lib64/dracut/hooks/shutdown:
total 0
drwxr-xr-x  2 root root  48 Apr  2 02:33 .
drwxr-xr-x 14 root root 392 Apr  2 02:33 ..

/tmp/whatever/lib64/dracut/hooks/shutdown-emergency:
total 0
drwxr-xr-x  2 root root  48 Apr  2 02:33 .
drwxr-xr-x 14 root root 392 Apr  2 02:33 ..

/tmp/whatever/lib64/modules:
total 2
drwxr-xr-x 3 root root   80 Apr  2 02:33 .
drwxr-xr-x 5 root root 1072 Apr  2 02:33 ..
drwxr-xr-x 3 root root  720 Apr  2 02:33 3.2.11-gentoo

/tmp/whatever/lib64/modules/3.2.11-gentoo:
total 93
drwxr-xr-x 3 root root   720 Apr  2 02:33 .
drwxr-xr-x 3 root root    80 Apr  2 02:33 ..
drwxr-xr-x 3 root root    72 Apr  2 02:33 kernel
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root    45 Apr  2 02:33 modules.alias
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root    12 Apr  2 02:33 modules.alias.bin
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root  8681 Apr  2 02:33 modules.builtin
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 11033 Apr  2 02:33 modules.builtin.bin
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root    69 Apr  2 02:33 modules.ccwmap
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root    39 Apr  2 02:33 modules.dep
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root    79 Apr  2 02:33 modules.dep.bin
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root    52 Apr  2 02:33 modules.devname
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root    73 Apr  2 02:33 modules.ieee1394map
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root   141 Apr  2 02:33 modules.inputmap
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root    81 Apr  2 02:33 modules.isapnpmap
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root    74 Apr  2 02:33 modules.ofmap
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root    73 Apr  2 02:33 modules.order
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root    99 Apr  2 02:33 modules.pcimap
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root    43 Apr  2 02:33 modules.seriomap
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root   131 Apr  2 02:33 modules.softdep
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root    49 Apr  2 02:33 modules.symbols
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root    12 Apr  2 02:33 modules.symbols.bin
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root   189 Apr  2 02:33 modules.usbmap

/tmp/whatever/lib64/modules/3.2.11-gentoo/kernel:
total 1
drwxr-xr-x 3 root root  72 Apr  2 02:33 .
drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 720 Apr  2 02:33 ..
drwxr-xr-x 3 root root  72 Apr  2 02:33 drivers

/tmp/whatever/lib64/modules/3.2.11-gentoo/kernel/drivers:
total 0
drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 72 Apr  2 02:33 .
drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 72 Apr  2 02:33 ..
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 88 Apr  2 02:33 scsi

/tmp/whatever/lib64/modules/3.2.11-gentoo/kernel/drivers/scsi:
total 4
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root   88 Apr  2 02:33 .
drwxr-xr-x 3 root root   72 Apr  2 02:33 ..
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 3406 Apr  2 02:33 scsi_wait_scan.ko

/tmp/whatever/lib64/udev:
total 249
drwxr-xr-x 3 root root   336 Apr  2 02:33 .
drwxr-xr-x 5 root root  1072 Apr  2 02:33 ..
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 22600 Apr  2 02:33 ata_id
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 30824 Apr  2 02:33 cdrom_id
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root  1579 Apr  2 02:33 console_init
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 18792 Apr  2 02:33 create_floppy_devices
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 18528 Apr  2 02:33 edd_id
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 18520 Apr  2 02:33 firmware
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 26752 Apr  2 02:33 input_id
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 30888 Apr  2 02:33 path_id
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root   296 Apr  2 02:33 rules.d
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 31512 Apr  2 02:33 scsi_id
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 35072 Apr  2 02:33 usb_id

/tmp/whatever/lib64/udev/rules.d:
total 28
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root  296 Apr  2 02:33 .
drwxr-xr-x 3 root root  336 Apr  2 02:33 ..
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root  219 Apr  2 02:33 50-firmware.rules
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 3777 Apr  2 02:33 50-udev-default.rules
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 5565 Apr  2 02:33 60-persistent-storage.rules
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root  528 Apr  2 02:33 61-persistent-storage-edd.rules
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root  657 Apr  2 02:33 80-drivers.rules
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root  155 Apr  2 02:33 95-udev-late.rules

/tmp/whatever/proc:
total 0
drwxr-xr-x  2 root root  48 Apr  2 02:33 .
drwxr-xr-x 15 root root 432 Apr  2 02:33 ..

/tmp/whatever/root:
total 0
drwxr-xr-x  2 root root  48 Apr  2 02:33 .
drwxr-xr-x 15 root root 432 Apr  2 02:33 ..

/tmp/whatever/run:
total 0
drwxr-xr-x  5 root root 128 Apr  2 02:33 .
drwxr-xr-x 15 root root 432 Apr  2 02:33 ..
drwxr-xr-x  2 root root  48 Apr  2 02:33 initramfs
drwxr-xr-x  2 root root  48 Apr  2 02:33 lock
drwxr-xr-x  3 root root  72 Apr  2 02:33 udev

/tmp/whatever/run/initramfs:
total 0
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root  48 Apr  2 02:33 .
drwxr-xr-x 5 root root 128 Apr  2 02:33 ..

/tmp/whatever/run/lock:
total 0
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root  48 Apr  2 02:33 .
drwxr-xr-x 5 root root 128 Apr  2 02:33 ..

/tmp/whatever/run/udev:
total 0
drwxr-xr-x 3 root root  72 Apr  2 02:33 .
drwxr-xr-x 5 root root 128 Apr  2 02:33 ..
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root  48 Apr  2 02:33 rules.d

/tmp/whatever/run/udev/rules.d:
total 0
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 48 Apr  2 02:33 .
drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 72 Apr  2 02:33 ..

/tmp/whatever/sbin:
total 956
drwxr-xr-x  2 root root    440 Apr  2 02:33 .
drwxr-xr-x 15 root root    432 Apr  2 02:33 ..
-rwxr-xr-x  1 root root  31368 Apr  2 02:33 blkid
-rwxr-xr-x  1 root root 220840 Apr  2 02:33 e2fsck
-rwxr-xr-x  1 root root  18712 Apr  2 02:33 halt
-rwxr-xr-x  1 root root   1145 Apr  2 02:33 initqueue
-rwxr-xr-x  1 root root    300 Apr  2 02:33 insmodpost.sh
-rwxr-xr-x  1 root root  22888 Apr  2 02:33 killall5
-rwxr-xr-x  1 root root    581 Apr  2 02:33 loginit
-rwxr-xr-x  1 root root  59840 Apr  2 02:33 modprobe
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root      4 Apr  2 02:33 poweroff -> halt
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root      4 Apr  2 02:33 reboot -> halt
-rwxr-xr-x  1 root root 310952 Apr  2 02:33 reiserfsck
-rwxr-xr-x  1 root root  14504 Apr  2 02:33 rmmod
-rwxr-xr-x  1 root root  10376 Apr  2 02:33 switch_root
-rwxr-xr-x  1 root root 129888 Apr  2 02:33 udevadm
-rwxr-xr-x  1 root root 134208 Apr  2 02:33 udevd

/tmp/whatever/sys:
total 0
drwxr-xr-x  2 root root  48 Apr  2 02:33 .
drwxr-xr-x 15 root root 432 Apr  2 02:33 ..

/tmp/whatever/sysroot:
total 0
drwxr-xr-x  2 root root  48 Apr  2 02:33 .
drwxr-xr-x 15 root root 432 Apr  2 02:33 ..

/tmp/whatever/tmp:
total 0
drwxr-xr-x  2 root root  48 Apr  2 02:33 .
drwxr-xr-x 15 root root 432 Apr  2 02:33 ..

/tmp/whatever/usr:
total 0
drwxr-xr-x  6 root root 144 Apr  2 02:33 .
drwxr-xr-x 15 root root 432 Apr  2 02:33 ..
drwxr-xr-x  2 root root 312 Apr  2 02:33 bin
drwxr-xr-x  2 root root  80 Apr  2 02:33 lib64
drwxr-xr-x  2 root root  48 Apr  2 02:33 sbin
drwxr-xr-x  4 root root 104 Apr  2 02:33 share

/tmp/whatever/usr/bin:
total 332
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root    312 Apr  2 02:33 .
drwxr-xr-x 6 root root    144 Apr  2 02:33 ..
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root     18 Apr  2 02:33 basename -> ../../bin/basename
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root     16 Apr  2 02:33 chroot -> ../../bin/chroot
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root  14456 Apr  2 02:33 flock
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root  10272 Apr  2 02:33 kbd_mode
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 153352 Apr  2 02:33 less
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 111272 Apr  2 02:33 loadkeys
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root     16 Apr  2 02:33 mkfifo -> ../../bin/mkfifo
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root     18 Apr  2 02:33 readlink -> ../../bin/readlink
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root  39640 Apr  2 02:33 setfont
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root     15 Apr  2 02:33 sleep -> ../../bin/sleep
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root     15 Apr  2 02:33 uname -> ../../bin/uname

/tmp/whatever/usr/lib64:
total 0
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root  80 Apr  2 02:33 .
drwxr-xr-x 6 root root 144 Apr  2 02:33 ..
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root  32 Apr  2 02:33 libnss_files.so -> ../../lib64/libnss_files-2.13.so

/tmp/whatever/usr/sbin:
total 0
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root  48 Apr  2 02:33 .
drwxr-xr-x 6 root root 144 Apr  2 02:33 ..

/tmp/whatever/usr/share:
total 0
drwxr-xr-x 4 root root 104 Apr  2 02:33 .
drwxr-xr-x 6 root root 144 Apr  2 02:33 ..
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 120 Apr  2 02:33 consolefonts
drwxr-xr-x 4 root root  96 Apr  2 02:33 keymaps

/tmp/whatever/usr/share/consolefonts:
total 20
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root  120 Apr  2 02:33 .
drwxr-xr-x 4 root root  104 Apr  2 02:33 ..
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 4969 Apr  2 02:33 default8x16.psfu
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 9836 Apr  2 02:33 LatArCyrHeb-16.psfu

/tmp/whatever/usr/share/keymaps:
total 0
drwxr-xr-x 4 root root  96 Apr  2 02:33 .
drwxr-xr-x 4 root root 104 Apr  2 02:33 ..
drwxr-xr-x 4 root root  96 Apr  2 02:33 i386
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 272 Apr  2 02:33 include

/tmp/whatever/usr/share/keymaps/i386:
total 0
drwxr-xr-x 4 root root  96 Apr  2 02:33 .
drwxr-xr-x 4 root root  96 Apr  2 02:33 ..
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 240 Apr  2 02:33 include
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root  72 Apr  2 02:33 qwerty

/tmp/whatever/usr/share/keymaps/i386/include:
total 24
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root  240 Apr  2 02:33 .
drwxr-xr-x 4 root root   96 Apr  2 02:33 ..
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root  278 Apr  2 02:33 compose.inc
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root  253 Apr  2 02:33 euro1.map
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 4353 Apr  2 02:33 linux-keys-bare.inc
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root  746 Apr  2 02:33 linux-with-alt-and-altgr.inc
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root  456 Apr  2 02:33 qwerty-layout.inc

/tmp/whatever/usr/share/keymaps/i386/qwerty:
total 4
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root   72 Apr  2 02:33 .
drwxr-xr-x 4 root root   96 Apr  2 02:33 ..
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 2004 Apr  2 02:33 us.map

/tmp/whatever/usr/share/keymaps/include:
total 32
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root  272 Apr  2 02:33 .
drwxr-xr-x 4 root root   96 Apr  2 02:33 ..
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root  517 Apr  2 02:33 compose.8859_7
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root   23 Apr  2 02:33 compose.8859_8
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 6030 Apr  2 02:33 compose.latin
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 3889 Apr  2 02:33 compose.latin1
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 3465 Apr  2 02:33 compose.latin2
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 2037 Apr  2 02:33 compose.latin3
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 2897 Apr  2 02:33 compose.latin4

/tmp/whatever/var:
total 0
drwxr-xr-x  3 root root 120 Apr  2 02:33 .
drwxr-xr-x 15 root root 432 Apr  2 02:33 ..
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root   9 Apr  2 02:33 lock -> /run/lock
drwxr-xr-x  2 root root  48 Apr  2 02:33 log
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root   4 Apr  2 02:33 run -> /run

/tmp/whatever/var/log:
total 0
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root  48 Apr  2 02:33 .
drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 120 Apr  2 02:33 ..
root@fireball /tmp/whatever #
Replies:
Re: Re: After /usr conflation: why not copy booting software to /sbin rather than initramfs?
-- Neil Bothwick
Re: Re: After /usr conflation: why not copy booting software to /sbin rather than initramfs?
-- Canek Peláez Valdés
References:
Re: After /usr conflation: why not copy booting software to /sbin rather than initramfs?
-- Alan Mackenzie
Re: After /usr conflation: why not copy booting software to /sbin rather than initramfs?
-- Neil Bothwick
Re: After /usr conflation: why not copy booting software to /sbin rather than initramfs?
-- che
RE: Re: After /usr conflation: why not copy booting software to /sbin rather than initramfs?
-- Mike Edenfield
Re: Re: After /usr conflation: why not copy booting software to /sbin rather than initramfs?
-- Alan Mackenzie
Re: Re: After /usr conflation: why not copy booting software to /sbin rather than initramfs?
-- Alan McKinnon
Re: Re: After /usr conflation: why not copy booting software to /sbin rather than initramfs?
-- Alan Mackenzie
Re: Re: After /usr conflation: why not copy booting software to /sbin rather than initramfs?
-- Alan McKinnon
Re: Re: After /usr conflation: why not copy booting software to /sbin rather than initramfs?
-- Alan Mackenzie
Re: Re: After /usr conflation: why not copy booting software to /sbin rather than initramfs?
-- Neil Bothwick
Re: Re: After /usr conflation: why not copy booting software to /sbin rather than initramfs?
-- Alan Mackenzie
Re: Re: After /usr conflation: why not copy booting software to /sbin rather than initramfs?
-- Dale
Re: Re: After /usr conflation: why not copy booting software to /sbin rather than initramfs?
-- Canek Peláez Valdés
Re: Re: After /usr conflation: why not copy booting software to /sbin rather than initramfs?
-- Dale
Re: Re: After /usr conflation: why not copy booting software to /sbin rather than initramfs?
-- Canek Peláez Valdés
Re: Re: After /usr conflation: why not copy booting software to /sbin rather than initramfs?
-- Dale
Re: Re: After /usr conflation: why not copy booting software to /sbin rather than initramfs?
-- Canek Peláez Valdés
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