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From: Kevin O'Gorman <kogorman@×××××.com>
To: gentoo-user@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] kernel 2.6.25-r6 oddities; is this kernel really ready for stable?
Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 01:26:29
Message-Id: 9acccfe50807231826o32f6362amabdd266d3ca95b9b@mail.gmail.com
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-user] kernel 2.6.25-r6 oddities; is this kernel really ready for stable? by Volker Armin Hemmann
1 On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 5:06 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann
2 <volker.armin.hemmann@××××××××××××.de> wrote:
3 > On Mittwoch, 23. Juli 2008, Kevin O'Gorman wrote:
4 >> I run gentoo x86 stable, so that I usually avoid this sort of thing.
5 >>
6 >> This kernel, however, looks balky to me, because it's reporting
7 >> warnings and other oddities during compilation. I don't like warnings
8 >> at any time, and with the kernel's make wrappers cleaning up the
9 >> output they tend to stand out.
10 >>
11 >> Here's what I get:
12 >> -- various type/attribute warnings
13 >
14 > harmless.
15 >
16 >> -- reports of deprecated elements
17 >
18 > even more harmless
19 >
20 >> -- a report of "section mismatches", and instructions to use "make
21 >> CONFIG_DEBUG_SECTION_MISMATCH=y" to find details.
22 >
23 > completly harmless.
24 >
25 > All three 'problems' can be safely ignored. So do it.
26 >
27
28 And how would I know they're harmless. No offense, but I don't know
29 enough about you to evaluate your skill or knowledge.
30
31 I have seen lots of build problems over the decades, but these are new
32 to me. What I see is that for some time now, kernel builds have been
33 utterly clean, admirably free from the tedious command-line echoes
34 that obscure any real information from compiler/linker/whatever build
35 tools. Suddenly there are three kinds of reports, most of them a kind
36 that I cannot evaluate. There is no sign of the care that I've found
37 in other builds, where expected artifacts are announced by the build
38 ("expect 3 strength/reduce errors here"). The kernel build-toolset
39 look like they it would take a major project to comprehend, which I do
40 not have time for.
41
42 So what's a poor user to do? Believe the first poster responding with
43 (apparent) authority? Maybe. I'm just going to stay away for a while
44 and see what shakes out.
45
46 >>
47 >> All that being said, the compilation completes, and I can boot it. I
48 >> don't know the cause, but I have been unable to get vmware-server
49 >> running on it, and I'm going back to the previous kernel for that
50 >> reason.
51 >
52 > complain to vmware - it's their closed source crap that doesn't work.
53
54 I have less clout with vmware than I have with the kernel team, I
55 would guess, because I don't pay either one, but at least the kernel
56 team are not in business to get money from me. But reasonable
57 virtualization is essential to some of my own projects, and I have to
58 stick with it. If I have to, I'll learn a different tools set, but
59 it's not something I take up lightly.
60
61 --
62 Kevin O'Gorman, PhD

Replies

Subject Author
Re: [gentoo-user] kernel 2.6.25-r6 oddities; is this kernel really ready for stable? Volker Armin Hemmann <volker.armin.hemmann@××××××××××××.de>
Re: [gentoo-user] kernel 2.6.25-r6 oddities; is this kernel really ready for stable? Sebastian Wiesner <basti.wiesner@×××.net>