Gentoo Archives: www-redesign

From: Aaron Shi <aaron@××××××××.com>
To: www-redesign@××××××××××××.org
Subject: RE: [www-redesign] Current status
Date: Wed, 09 Mar 2005 01:36:35
Message-Id: 200503090136.j291aT0k056966@athena.thinkhost.com
In Reply to: Re: [www-redesign] Current status by Xavier Neys
> + Artwork origin is still unknown. As long as we don't know > for sure we > + are > allowed to use it, we won't expose ourselves to legal action.
The following images have no usage restrictions. http://sxc.hu/browse.phtml?f=view&id=207618 http://sxc.hu/browse.phtml?f=view&id=182475 http://sxc.hu/browse.phtml?f=view&id=141927 http://sxc.hu/browse.phtml?f=view&id=77962 http://sxc.hu/browse.phtml?f=view&id=147870 The following image has no usage restrictions provided that the author is contacted (which I just did, waiting for reply). http://sxc.hu/browse.phtml?f=view&id=176068 There are two images unaccounted for, the background for Interact and the image for Resources. I can no longer find them in the database (might've got lost when their database pruned etc.). People with similar problems have posted on their forums that one should seek the admin's help. I have contacted the admin to track down the original authors. If the admin cannot locate the original authors/permission info, I will find suitable replacements. All other graphics, icons, etc. are made by me.
> + General note: html pages should make as little use of <img> as > + possible and > let the css add images whenever possible.
That is also my goal, the prototype already uses CSS to place most of the images, but it can be further improved.
> + ToDo: complete design, i.e. decide on how to display note/warn/impo > elements, code samples, tables, credits, handbook navigation...
I'm on it.
> + ToDo: code html/css in a way that works. > This is how http://www.aaronshi.com/gentoo/ looks at the moment: > http://dev.gentoo.org/~neysx/images/new.png > FYI, the current design: > http://dev.gentoo.org/~neysx/images/cur.png (1)
I know of this problem, but I wasn't expecting anyone to browse with such large fonts! The problem occurs under 2 conditions: 1) a browser using the Gecko engine 3) user-defined font size increase overrides browser default by 2 levels or more These 2 conditions have to occur simultaneously to cause the problem. For a font size increase of exactly 2 levels, the 3rd condition is that the browser width has to be less than 965px. This is the reason why I implemented a font size switcher on the article pages: http://www.aaronshi.com/gentoo/generic.html Users can increase the article text size, without using a crude browser based rule that leaves everything blown out of proportion. However... There are 3 possible solutions to this: 1) Decrease the number of nav items (i.e. to 4 or 5) so when window is narrow they won't wrap over. 2) Specify a very small default size so when people increase the font size it won't grow too big...however a majority of people leave the browser font size on default and to them it would appear small if we specify a small size. 3) Redo the layout. The page is currently horizontally fluid, I'm sure we can make things like the nav bar and header vertically fluid as well. The first 2 solutions are not too feasible. Solution 3 will be quite complicated which is why I didn't do it in the first place. Since it has come to my attention that this issue might be affecting more people than I previously estimated, I better get started on it right away. Regards, Aaron
> -----Original Message----- > From: Xavier Neys [mailto:neysx@g.o] > Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2005 3:41 AM > To: www-redesign@××××××××××××.org > Subject: Re: [www-redesign] Current status > > Hi all, > > My 2% of your currency: > > + Artwork origin is still unknown. As long as we don't know > for sure we > + are > allowed to use it, we won't expose ourselves to legal action. > > + General note: html pages should make as little use of <img> as > + possible and > let the css add images whenever possible. > FYI, I just replaced line.gif(1) from the current pages with > a border attribute because it writes more bytes to the logs > than it sends down the wire. At 40,000+ hits/day on line.gif > alone, it's a waste easily avoided. > > + ToDo: complete design, i.e. decide on how to display note/warn/impo > elements, code samples, tables, credits, handbook navigation... > > + ToDo: code html/css in a way that works. > This is how http://www.aaronshi.com/gentoo/ looks at the moment: > http://dev.gentoo.org/~neysx/images/new.png > FYI, the current design: > http://dev.gentoo.org/~neysx/images/cur.png (1) > > + ToDo: cleanup and coding of guide.xsl will be rather > trivial once the > + above > has been completed. I have already made it a bit shorter(1) > by factoring the right-hand column that was coded twice and > removed the <table> used to layout newsitems. > > > (1) some changes are still waiting to be committed. > > > Cheers, > -- > / Xavier Neys > \_ Gentoo Documentation Project > / French & Internationalisation Lead > \ http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en > /\ >
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