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From: Chris Case <macguyvok@...>
Subject: Re: a couple of comments
Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2005 10:00:35 +0000
Might I make a suggestion of limiting the news items on the front page to two or three? It would help to clean up the front page a bit. Other than that, it's quite a nice site.<br><br><div><span class="gmail_quote">On 12/11/05, 
<b class="gmail_sendername">Aaron Shi</b> &lt;<a href="mailto:aaron@...">aaron@...</a>&gt; wrote:</span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
Wow, took a quick peek and everything looks much nicer.<br><br>A couple of things (here it goes):<br><br>--1--<br>&gt; When I saw the e-mail icon next to the print icon, my first<br>&gt; thought was that it was a &quot;send-a-link&quot; button, since that's
<br>&gt; pretty common on news sites.&nbsp;&nbsp;Having it represent a mailto:<br>&gt; link instead might be potentially confusing.&nbsp;&nbsp;Anybody else think that?<br><br>It is misleading and counter intuitive.&nbsp;&nbsp;The original reference was for
<br>&quot;send-a-link,&quot; but to do that it requires javascript and hence that's<br>probably why it was changed to a static mailto: link.<br><br>--2--<br>&gt; There are a few other minor changes as well. Link colors have
<br>&gt; been made more consistant: purple on white for content areas<br>&gt; and white on purple in the menu bar. All links turn green on<br>&gt; :hover. These color combinations pass the color-blind test,<br>&gt; look really good and are consistant.
<br><br>The green was intended for on the dark purple background on the top bar or<br>bolded text headings.&nbsp;&nbsp;It is not intended for unbold non-heading text on<br>white background or on light purple background (especially hard to see, 
e.g.<br>hover ad links on the ad bar).&nbsp;&nbsp;Also, the ad images have dotted underlines<br>under them, they shouldn't.<br><br>--3--<br>&gt; The top level menu (main, planet, forums, etc...) had an<br>&gt; issue. The green arrow designates which site you are on. If
<br>&gt; you are on <a href="http://planet.gentoo.org">planet.gentoo.org</a> then PLANET would be first in<br>&gt; line with the green arrow. I spaced the first word out more<br>&gt; to make it more obvious. The link colors were changed to
<br>&gt; white with green hover to be consistant with the site-wide<br>&gt; color scheme and also to pass the color blind test.<br><br>Hmm...we shouldn't changed the menu order on the users.&nbsp;&nbsp;It creates<br>confusion and slows down the workflow because they'd have to double-check
<br>the position of the links before clicking due to them changing.&nbsp;&nbsp;How about,<br>current site = white link, other sites = dimmer (i.e. light purple).&nbsp;&nbsp;Also<br>the green arrow doesn't vertically align with the text as in the reference,
<br>not sure why merely changing colors would also change the positioning.&nbsp;&nbsp;The<br>font looks a tad different, maybe that's why.<br><br>--4--<br>&gt; I like this version much better. It's all coming together, and<br>&gt; I give my thumbs up for a release of this as soon as the minor
<br>&gt; bugs are worked out. (Not like it matters, but as an average gentoo<br>&gt; user, I applaud you, and everyone else!)<br><br>&gt; Yes, let's see this before X-Mas 2005! It would be a nice X-mas<br>&gt; present to the community!
<br><br>I'd strong advise against releasing an unpolished product and patching up<br>known-bugs later (i.e. pull a Microsoft).&nbsp;&nbsp;Since this is a major event,<br>there will undoubtly be additional coverage and it would not look good if we
<br>launched it at sub par quality (Gentoo critics would totally capitalize on<br>it).<br><br>--5--<br>&gt; Chapters are the green and a larger font size and sections<br>&gt; are dark purple and a little smaller. It looks good at the
<br>&gt; moment and (more or<br>&gt; less) matches the reference design.<br><br>Looks good, my only concern with this and the other color changes is where<br>the colors came from.&nbsp;&nbsp;Are they part of the color scheme?&nbsp;&nbsp;The dark purple
<br>sub headings, while the text is of higher contrast (is it necessary?), it<br>over shadows the green heading (even though the green heading is larger),<br>this is because the apparent brightness is inconsistent.&nbsp;&nbsp;The purple in the
<br>reference looks more balanced.&nbsp;&nbsp;The headings (green, purple, and doc heading<br>at top in the light purple box) could be a little bigger as our default text<br>is bigger.<br><br>--6--<br>On the front page, there's a light purple space below between the content
<br>area and the footer bar.&nbsp;&nbsp;To the right of the line where it says &quot;#103610 -<br>yaboot-static claims incorrectly that /proc/device-tree broken is in the<br>2.6.12 kernel series&quot;, the ad bar is shifted by 1 pixel to the right (this
<br>is barely noticeable but very odd).<br><br>--7--<br>The front page looks over crowded, I think this is mostly a spacing issue<br>(or lack of).&nbsp;&nbsp;Giving the purple bar headings a padding and putting more<br>space between each news item may help a little temporarily.&nbsp;&nbsp;The &quot;More News&quot;
<br>link needs to be more prominent, right now it just looks like part of the<br>last news item.<br><br>--etc.--<br>The table borders might look better in a purple (right now it appears black<br>or very dark gray).<br><br>
The XML buttons have dotted underlines, within a sentence it looks okay, but<br>on its own it looks strange (the underline sticks right to the bottom of it,<br>essentially same problem as ad images).&nbsp;&nbsp;This is probably a line height
<br>issue.<br><br>The ad column's purple doesn't quite match the light gray portion on the<br>footer which connects to it.&nbsp;&nbsp;The purple looks nice too, I can probably<br>change the footer graphic later to match the purple.
<br><br><br><br>Overall good work Curtis, this is coming together nicely! The progress has<br>been huge in the last couple of weeks.<br><br><br>Aaron<br><br>--<br><a href="mailto:www-redesign@g.o">www-redesign@g.o
</a> mailing list<br><br></blockquote></div><br><br clear="all"><br>-- <br>Christopher S. Case<br>SUNY Fredonia<br>Computer Science / Computer Engineering<br><a href="mailto:macguyvok@...">macguyvok@...</a><br>
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