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From: Blackace <blackace@g.o>
Subject: Re: Advertisement bar
Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2005 15:30:59 -0800
On Sun, 2005-11-27 at 22:12 +0000, Kurt Lieber wrote:
> On Sat, Nov 26, 2005 at 07:56:08PM -0600 or thereabouts, Lance Albertson wrote:
> > I was poking around the site and I just seemed to think that the
> > advertisement bar takes up a lot of space. Even though it only uses the
> > top portion of the site, the rest of the page doesn't render completely
> > across the browser because of it. Not sure how feasible this is, but
> > could we possibly have an option of making that pane 'hidable' via
> > clicking the '> Advertisements' link so it can make the whole page
> > viewable? Not sure if this is possible, but I know of one example in a
> > wiki called dokuwiki where they have a Contents table that will hide if
> > you click on it. Curious your ideas/thoughts.
> 
> We can't do this without significantly reducing the value that those spots
> hold.  If we make it simple for everyone to hide those ads, advertisers
> aren't going to be willing to pay as much (through donated services) to
> have their ads placed there.  The ad bar needs to remain visible at all
> times.  (and yes, I realize things like Firefox's AdBlock extension can do
> the same thing)

Kurt, I see what you're saying about the perceived value of the ad
spots, but it seems to me sponsors aren't motivated to sponsor us by the
ads, because, for instance there are sponsors who have donated what has
to be thousands of dollars of machines/parts (Genesi, HP, AMD, nVidia
come to mind) who have not been given an ad spot (I don't know if this
is because they were offered one but didn't want it, or what), but in
the absence of an established policy, it seems issuance of the ad spots
is largely arbitrary, which would leave us dictating terms as it were ;)
so couldn't we dictate terms to make what Lance is suggesting possible,
which is a good idea and something that would improve usability of the
site?

On Fri, 2005-11-25 at 13:07 +0000, Aaron Shi wrote:
> I assume the existing site had a set of advertising guidelines hence
> all the
> ads are the same dimensions.  If there is, couldn't we revise those
> guidelines for the new site re: size and color?  To make it easy for
> the
> existing adverstisers, we can convert the ads to fit new guidelines
> for them
> if they provide the ad files.

btw, I don't know if you saw this or not, but is this doable?

Thanks.
-- 
Blackace
Gentoo Linux
Infrastructure Developer
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