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From: "Aaron Shi" <aaron@...>
Subject: RE: status of http://wwwredesign.gentoo.org
Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2005 00:57:43 -0800
1.
The gray background for the jumppads and ad bar is wrong (it's the wrong
gray and for the jumppads, you can also tell that the corners are off).  It
almost seems that someone just took the graphics, turned them grayscale and
turned down the brightness in Photoshop.  Notice for the ad bar that
originally CSS was used to tile the gray bg for the ad bar, and the graphic
in the footer connects to it.  Now it's disjoint when the page is long. (And
the bit that's sticking out of the bottom right of the footer has nothing to
connect to.)  Both grays for the jumppads and ad bar are the same, a very
light gray.

2.
There is a white line (1px) between the top of the ad bar and the dark gray
bar at the top; it's not supposed to be there.  There is also a 1px white
line on the right of the ad bar between it and the scroll bar -- not
supposed to be there either.

3.
The new donate button looks sexier than the plain button.

4.
The news headlines are not vertically lined up with the author/date.

5.
For some reason, the current font is bigger, but it's not sharp?

6.
With regards to the navigation in the top right, what I said before was
*not* to make it *all* green, but rather make the *current* site's link
green (and leave the rest light purple as before), so people can tell what
site they're on.  The light purple version that Curtis did a few days ago
also had better vertical centering for those links and the arrow.  Since
they were changed to all green, the alignment is a bit off.

7.
For the content area, I'd make the margins equal on all sides.  Otherwise,
it looks unbalanced.

8.
The bg for the author list for articles should be a very light purple --
gray on light gray is kind of hard to read.  Same with code snippet bg, etc.
wherever the gray is used, please change it back to light purple. Check here
for the appropriate bg color: http://www.aaronshi.com/gentoo/guidepage.html

9.
For headings with light purple bg, I'd make give them a small padding on all
sides, i.e. so the characters are not right up against the edges.  The
original intent for the bg was *not* to make it for all headings, but rather
*for news headings only* to highlight them on the front page where obviously
the content is not the main attraction (but none the less news headings are
important info and deserved to be put on par with the rest of the front
page).  The news headings should be clickable, since what's displayed on the
front is only an abstract and it'll lead to the full article.

10.
While the bg for headings look okay, they seem a bit counter intuitive.  The
green headings are main headings, and hence should be bigger and more
prominent.  Right now, the purple subheadings are the same size as the green
ones and appear more prominent with the bg highlighting it.  This is
opposite of what they should be doing and it's not user friendly.  Please
refer to http://www.aaronshi.com/gentoo/guidepage.html to see how headings
should be used.

11.
Double check the colors for the warnings/important/notes etc., e.g.
http://wwwredesign.gentoo.org/doc/en/openmosix-howto.xml  Important and note
are hard to read due to their color.

12.
Consistency is also a concern, things look in symphony when they are
consistent.  There are a lot of inconsistencies that present serious
usability concerns.

Heading in the right direction though. ;)

> I've had individual reports from a few key people and can 
> safely say that it renders correctly in all browsers with the 
> exception of IE5 on mac. I decided that it was not used 
> enough to justify the hack it would require to support it and 
> there are alternative browsers for the mac all the way back 
> to OS8.X that don't have outstanding security issues as IE5
>   does. I hope the few users of this browser will understand.

Fully agree with this decision.


Aaron




> -----Original Message-----
> From: Curtis Napier [mailto:curtis119@g.o] 
> Sent: Monday, November 28, 2005 10:06 PM
> To: www-redesign@g.o
> Subject: Re: [www-redesign] status of http://wwwredesign.gentoo.org
> 
> I got together with the project leads and we finalized some 
> decisions. 
> The site, http://wwwredesign.gentoo.org, is now in it's final 
> state except for the search and donate.
> 
> The search is going to be implemented using google as a back 
> end as an interim solution. The only free version of google 
> site search that is available to us is the normal one that 
> anyone can use. We are not the right kind of non-profit to 
> get the free, customized search. This means you will be taken 
> out of the gentoo site to a google controlled page.
> 
> The good news is that it will allow us to do a very 
> comprehensive advanced search page where you can fine grain 
> your search to any of the gentoo web sites. You will be able 
> to search documents by language, forums, developer pages, 
> etc.... We will also hook into the bugs and forum native 
> search engines to further enhance the search. You will be 
> able to specify google or forum search as the search backend 
> when you search the forum.
> 
> We will be investigating alternative search engines that we 
> can host ouselves so that we have maximum control. I won't be 
> able to get around to that until after the other gentoo sites 
> are migrated to the new design so google will be the default 
> for a while. If anyone wants to do some preliminary research 
> and start submitting suggestions I would appreciate it.
> 
> I'll be setting up the search over the next week or two so stay tuned.
> 
> As you can see Aarons reference site has been implemented 
> pretty accurately now. Comments and suggestions are welcome.
> 
> I've had individual reports from a few key people and can 
> safely say that it renders correctly in all browsers with the 
> exception of IE5 on mac. I decided that it was not used 
> enough to justify the hack it would require to support it and 
> there are alternative browsers for the mac all the way back 
> to OS8.X that don't have outstanding security issues as IE5
>   does. I hope the few users of this browser will understand.
> 
> There was a small bug in konqueror that I finally got sorted 
> out, thanks to dangle for being my tester.
> 
> I'll report back when the search is ready for wide testing.
> 
> Thanks everybody
> --
> www-redesign@g.o mailing list
> 
> 
> 

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