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From: Grant Goodyear <g2boojum@g.o>
Subject: Re: Progress update
Date: Wed, 4 May 2005 10:09:33 -0500
Blackace wrote: [Wed May 04 2005, 12:01:57AM CDT]
> On your guide page, I really feel like the author list would be better
> off in the right bar, since for the handbook for instance, the list is
> going to get really long.

I actually like the author list at the top, but to make it reasonable it
would need to list the authors as
  Joe Buck (Author), Homer Simpson (Editor), ...
instead of using one line per entry.  Of course, I might change my mind
if I actually saw an example w/ the authors from the Handbook.

> In addition, the drop down in the top bar seems out of place, perhaps it
> would better left aligned in line with the font size adjustment, e-mail,
> and print buttons.  I do like the buttons though, especially the print
> one to link to our ?style=printable, but the e-mail one is probably
> unnecessary since we don't have it now, I doubt people would use it
> much, and we'd have to implement a script and form behind it, exposing
> ourselves to people using it to use our servers to spam people.

I agree about the e-mail link, but I rather like the drop-down bar where
it is, since it seems reasonable to me that the drop down be part of the 
location bread-crumbs.  *Shrug*

> I think the links in the content of the guide page would be better with
> solid underlines vs. dotted, since dotted usually implies contextual
> help or a "tool tip" which explains an acronym, and the dotted underline
> seems to disappear in that much text.
> 
> The background color on <c> and <i> elements is also much too faint, I
> would either bolden it up a little or just leave it out, as a matter of
> fact the body text seems a little too faint as well.

Reasonable criticisms.

> The tables I like very much, but the code listings and warnings just
> seem very out of place, colors mostly...for the code listing the green
> you use in chapter headings would look better, and I just don't like the
> single line on the left, it seems like it's supposed to be an editor's
> note or markup more than part of the document, maybe a similar style as
> the tables, except a green header row, light blue background would look
> better...as for notes and warnings, I'd go with a dotted border like
> your author/document info box at the top has, and a light pastel colored
> background keyed to what it is, purple for notes, red for warnings, etc.
> And on the printable page, I'd drop the light background on the code
> listings and everything else like you do for the tables.

I actually really like the code listings and the warnings. That said, I
don't at all like the vertical scroll bar on the code listings.  (I 
absolutely loathe the horizontal scroll bar, since it's extremely rare
that the 80-character limit for <pre></pre> blocks needs to be 
violated, but that's a different issue.)

> Part of that is the top bar once we leave the main index page, on your
> guide page you show it containing bread crumb style navigation...I had
> hoped we could use that space for secondary navigation that all our top
> level apps will need, like forums, bugs, and packages...and archives
> would benefit from it too.

An example might be helpful.

So, how far are we from being able to process the whole doc tree to
create a full test version of the new site?  I'd love to have a
not-published version on one of the infra boxes that we can use to
really get a feel for how navigation is going to work.

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