RE: [www-redesign] Current status

[Aaron Shi]

> + Artwork origin is still unknown. As long as we don't know
> for sure we
> + are
> allowed to use it, we won't expose ourselves to legal action.

The following images have no usage restrictions.

http://sxc.hu/browse.phtml?f=view&id=207618

http://sxc.hu/browse.phtml?f=view&id=182475

http://sxc.hu/browse.phtml?f=view&id=141927

http://sxc.hu/browse.phtml?f=view&id=77962 

http://sxc.hu/browse.phtml?f=view&id=147870

The following image has no usage restrictions provided that the author is
contacted (which I just did, waiting for reply).

http://sxc.hu/browse.phtml?f=view&id=176068

There are two images unaccounted for, the background for Interact and the
image for Resources.  I can no longer find them in the database (might've
got lost when their database pruned etc.).  People with similar problems
have posted on their forums that one should seek the admin's help.  I have
contacted the admin to track down the original authors.  If the admin cannot
locate the original authors/permission info, I will find suitable
replacements.

All other graphics, icons, etc. are made by me.


> + General note: html pages should make as little use of <img> as
> + possible and
> let the css add images whenever possible.

That is also my goal, the prototype already uses CSS to place most of the
images, but it can be further improved.


> + ToDo: complete design, i.e. decide on how to display note/warn/impo
> elements, code samples, tables, credits, handbook navigation...

I'm on it.


> + ToDo: code html/css in a way that works.
> This is how http://www.aaronshi.com/gentoo/ looks at the moment:
> http://dev.gentoo.org/~neysx/images/new.png
> FYI, the current design:
> http://dev.gentoo.org/~neysx/images/cur.png (1)

I know of this problem, but I wasn't expecting anyone to browse with such
large fonts!  

The problem occurs under 2 conditions:
1) a browser using the Gecko engine
3) user-defined font size increase overrides browser default by 2 levels or
more

These 2 conditions have to occur simultaneously to cause the problem.  

For a font size increase of exactly 2 levels, the 3rd condition is that the
browser width has to be less than 965px.

This is the reason why I implemented a font size switcher on the article
pages: 
http://www.aaronshi.com/gentoo/generic.html

Users can increase the article text size, without using a crude browser
based rule that leaves everything blown out of proportion.

However...

There are 3 possible solutions to this:

1) Decrease the number of nav items (i.e. to 4 or 5) so when window is
narrow they won't wrap over.
2) Specify a very small default size so when people increase the font size
it won't grow too big...however a majority of people leave the browser font
size on default and to them it would appear small if we specify a small
size.
3) Redo the layout.  The page is currently horizontally fluid, I'm sure we
can make things like the nav bar and header vertically fluid as well.

The first 2 solutions are not too feasible.  Solution 3 will be quite
complicated which is why I didn't do it in the first place.  Since it has
come to my attention that this issue might be affecting more people than I
previously estimated, I better get started on it right away.

Regards,
Aaron



> -----Original Message-----
> From: Xavier Neys [mailto:neysx@g.o]
> Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2005 3:41 AM
> To: www-redesign@××××××××××××.org
> Subject: Re: [www-redesign] Current status
>
> Hi all,
>
> My 2% of your currency:
>
> + Artwork origin is still unknown. As long as we don't know
> for sure we
> + are
> allowed to use it, we won't expose ourselves to legal action.
>
> + General note: html pages should make as little use of <img> as
> + possible and
> let the css add images whenever possible.
> FYI, I just replaced line.gif(1) from the current pages with
> a border attribute because it writes more bytes to the logs
> than it sends down the wire. At 40,000+ hits/day on line.gif
> alone, it's a waste easily avoided.
>
> + ToDo: complete design, i.e. decide on how to display note/warn/impo
> elements, code samples, tables, credits, handbook navigation...
>
> + ToDo: code html/css in a way that works.
> This is how http://www.aaronshi.com/gentoo/ looks at the moment:
> http://dev.gentoo.org/~neysx/images/new.png
> FYI, the current design:
> http://dev.gentoo.org/~neysx/images/cur.png (1)
>
> + ToDo: cleanup and coding of guide.xsl will be rather
> trivial once the
> + above
> has been completed. I have already made it a bit shorter(1)
> by factoring the right-hand column that was coded twice and
> removed the <table> used to layout newsitems.
>
>
> (1) some changes are still waiting to be committed.
>
>
> Cheers,
> --
> /  Xavier Neys
> \_ Gentoo Documentation Project
> /  French & Internationalisation Lead
> \  http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en
> /\
>

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