From: "Michał Górny" <mgorny@gentoo.org>
To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org
Cc: elections@gentoo.org
Subject: Re: Flow's Manifesto and questions for nominees (was: Re: [gentoo-project] Gentoo Council Election 202306 ... Nominations Open in Just Over 24 Hours.)
Date: Sat, 08 Jul 2023 14:33:18 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <ca6ddfa0cfc92a6056ddb1d94b9e48641cf94039.camel@gentoo.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <cdf5ddb7-8f65-74cf-5594-3e3eec86c915@gentoo.org>
On Sat, 2023-07-08 at 12:10 +0200, Florian Schmaus wrote:
> On 28/06/2023 11.51, Florian Schmaus wrote:
> > On 17/06/2023 10.37, Arthur Zamarin wrote:
> > > On 15/06/2023 19.05, Roy Bamford wrote:
> > > > Team,
> > > >
> > > > Did you spot the error in my original announce?
> > > >
> > > > Write your nominations email now but don't send it until ...
> > > > Nominations are Saturday, 23-06-17 00:00:00 until
> > > > Friday 23-06-30 23:59:59. That's from the start of Saturday until the
> > > > end of the Friday for two weeks total.
> > > >
> > > > Replies to this message will make nominations easy to find for the
> > > > election officials.
> > >
> > > OK, then let me start sending nominations :)
> > >
> > > […]
> > >
> > > I also want to nominate people who I feel contribute a lot to Gentoo and
> > > I have a lot of interaction with (ordered by name, not priority):
> > >
> > > […]
> > > flow
> >
> > I apologize for the late reply, and thank you for the nomination. I am
> > honored and accept.
>
> Here is my Manifesto:
>
> https://dev.gentoo.org/~flow/council-manifesto-2023.txt
>
>
> I'd also like to ask the nominees about their stance regarding EGO_SUM.
1. First and foremost, eclass API is maintainer's decision, and EGO_SUM
mustn't be deprecated against the maintainer. You need to either
convince the maintainer or (co-)maintain it going forward.
2. We need ebuild and Manifest size limits independently of whether
EGO_SUM is undeprecated or not. However, since EGO_SUM is clearly
related to that, it makes sense to me to focus on setting the limits for
::gentoo first.
3. Once both points are met, there is no reason not to undeprecate it.
Since we're asking questions, I have two questions regarding your
Manifesto:
1. You point out that we have a "shortage of workforce". Don't you
think that before we lure more contributors in, we should ensure that
our current contributors are respected? Don't you think that it is
disrespectful when instead of looking for a compromise, you insist on
long arguments over every single thing, and when you fail to fail to get
things your way, you start over and over again? A quick search for
"EGO_SUM" counts *4* threads started by you (not counting subthreads),
total of 127 mails that sum up over 1 MiB (in mbox format)? [1] is yet
another example of needless arguing for the sake of arguing.
2. You seem to have proposals to improve GURU. Why are you throwing
them out of the blue as part of election campaign instead of joining
the project and discussing them openly?
[1] https://github.com/gentoo/baselayout/pull/4#issuecomment-1624859895
--
Best regards,
Michał Górny
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2023-07-08 12:33 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 57+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-06-15 16:05 [gentoo-project] Gentoo Council Election 202306 ... Nominations Open in Just Over 24 Hours Roy Bamford
2023-06-17 8:37 ` Arthur Zamarin
2023-06-17 16:23 ` Toralf Förster
2023-06-18 19:46 ` Ionen Wolkens
2023-06-21 18:46 ` Sam James
2023-06-21 21:06 ` Ulrich Mueller
2023-06-24 18:22 ` John Helmert III
2023-07-08 22:23 ` John Helmert III
2023-06-25 5:08 ` Joonas Niilola
2023-06-25 8:51 ` Andreas K. Huettel
2023-06-25 23:18 ` Matt Turner
2023-06-26 13:46 ` Michał Górny
2023-06-27 9:31 ` David Seifert
2023-06-27 13:35 ` Jakov Smolić
2023-06-28 9:51 ` Florian Schmaus
2023-06-28 14:46 ` Sam James
2023-07-08 10:10 ` Flow's Manifesto and questions for nominees (was: Re: [gentoo-project] Gentoo Council Election 202306 ... Nominations Open in Just Over 24 Hours.) Florian Schmaus
2023-07-08 12:33 ` Michał Górny [this message]
2023-07-08 21:29 ` Sam James
2023-07-09 3:21 ` Michał Górny
2023-07-08 20:22 ` [gentoo-project] Re: Flow's Manifesto and questions for nominees Ulrich Mueller
2023-07-08 21:29 ` Flow's Manifesto and questions for nominees (was: Re: [gentoo-project] Gentoo Council Election 202306 ... Nominations Open in Just Over 24 Hours.) David Seifert
2023-07-08 22:50 ` John Helmert III
2023-07-09 14:21 ` Matt Turner
2023-07-12 19:06 ` Florian Schmaus
2023-07-12 19:28 ` Alec Warner
2023-07-14 7:14 ` Florian Schmaus
2023-07-14 7:33 ` Sam James
2023-07-14 8:19 ` Sam James
2023-06-30 16:39 ` [gentoo-project] Gentoo Council Election 202306 ... Nominations Open in Just Over 24 Hours Andreas Sturmlechner
2023-07-01 22:42 ` David Seifert
2023-06-17 14:41 ` Florian Schmaus
2023-06-17 14:58 ` Arthur Zamarin
2023-06-17 16:19 ` James Le Cuirot
2023-06-19 13:44 ` Pacho Ramos
2023-06-20 10:16 ` Florian Schmaus
2023-06-21 17:32 ` Arsen Arsenović
2023-06-21 7:05 ` Guilherme Amadio
2023-06-23 19:53 ` Patrick McLean
2023-06-24 21:58 ` Conrad Kostecki
2023-06-29 13:28 ` Mike Gilbert
2023-06-30 6:35 ` Robin H. Johnson
2023-06-30 7:24 ` Maciej Barć
2023-06-30 8:46 ` Andrew Ammerlaan
2023-06-30 8:56 ` Hans de Graaff
2023-06-30 10:21 ` Mike Pagano
2023-06-30 12:30 ` David Abbott
2023-06-30 15:18 ` Jimi Huotari
2023-06-30 16:10 ` Roy Bamford
2023-06-30 20:29 ` Alfredo Tupone
2023-07-01 0:04 ` Rich Freeman
2023-07-03 20:02 ` Marek Szuba
2023-06-30 21:59 ` [gentoo-project] Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] " Patrick Lauer
2023-07-08 18:06 ` Arthur Zamarin
2023-07-09 3:36 ` Michał Górny
2023-07-09 14:09 ` Matt Turner
2023-07-09 17:47 ` [gentoo-project] " Ulrich Mueller
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