Re: [gentoo-alt] [PREFIX] prefix keywords need to go (?)

[Markus Duft]

On Wed, 2009-03-25 at 09:34 -0500, Jeremy Olexa wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 8:33 AM, Markus Duft <mduft@g.o> wrote:
> > this whole proposal would fix multiple problems:
> >
> > 1) main and prefix keywords are different, but thats ok if prefix
> > keywords are PREFIX_KEYWORDS - we could do our own thing here.
> >
> > 2) it would solve the problem "how does portage know which packages can
> > i merge in a prefixed environment" - no need to trigger based on
> > inherit, EAPI - or something worse :)
> >
> > 3) it would ease porting to prefix: simply allow merging main ebeuilds
> > in prefix by adding GENTOO to the ACCEPT_DISTRO_KEYWORDS.
> >
> > 4) it would make gentoo a "real" meta distro as haubi said, since
> > gentoo's (linux or prefix) "consumers" can do their own thing with
> > keywords completely different from ours. it would be no problem to use -
> > for example - keywords like "mduft" and "haubi" (lol), as long as they
> > are (fex) SALOMON_KEYWORDS.
> >
> > what about forwarding this thread to portage-dev@?
>
> I'm having trouble formulating a response to haubi's point because it
> is highly divergent to my main goal(s) here.
>
> a) I want non prefix devs[1] to write ebuilds that work in prefix.
> But, without knowledge of how Gentoo Prefix works - they shouldn't
> need to know.
> b) The current strategy of Gentoo Prefix keywords is if it compiles on
> one arch, it generally will compile on the rest. (Not always true, but
> mostly true)

this is mostly untrue for at least a few platforms haubi and i am
working on...

>
> So, in response to the above points. If we had PREFIX_KEYWORDS, it
> should _default_ to all and then react to a failure. As in:
> PREFIX_KEYWORDS="* -x86-interix"

that would be an option, but i'm unsure if that would be more or less
work/trouble to fight with than the current situation. maybe that would
work.

Cheers, Markus

>
> -Jeremy
>
> [1]: There is no way that the current Prefix dev team can handle all
> the ebuilds in the main tree. We need to leverage work that other
> people are already doing - similar to the way linux prefix profiles
> are inheriting gentoo-x86 profiles. We use the {x86,amd64,ia64} arch
> teams work to save us from duplicating it.
>