Gentoo Archives: gentoo-amd64

From: Duncan <1i5t5.duncan@×××.net>
To: gentoo-amd64@l.g.o
Subject: [gentoo-amd64] Re: unsubscribe
Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2011 03:24:12
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-amd64] unsubscribe by Volker Armin Hemmann
Volker Armin Hemmann posted on Sun, 26 Jun 2011 19:31:27 +0200 as

> On Monday 27 June 2011 03:26:59 Lie Ryan wrote:
>> Anyone noticed that this list have a higher than normal tendency to >> bully those who tried to unsubscribe and failed? > > bully? No, make fun of people failing to follow basic instructions? > Maybe. But not more than gentoo-user...
Exactly. 1) Instructions are in the headers of every post. A simple view-headers is all that's required. 2) Instructions are available at the same place they signed up, using a very similar procedure. It's not rocket science. If they could find and had the intelligence to subscribe (and even verify their subscription, the list IS double-opt-in, after all), unless they just had a stroke or some such, they should still be able to find and have the intelligence to unsubscribe. 3) Simple reason says that if it's a gentoo list, going to the gentoo site and looking for the mailing list info would be an appropriate way to figure out how to unsubscribe. Even if they somehow lost all memory of the subscription process, simple reason remains the same, and indeed, the gentoo mailing list info can be found on the site exactly as one could expect. 4) In this case, all they had to do was read the thread from a couple days ago, on the same subject. Simple netiquette has always expected that people follow a list or newsgroup for a bit before they ask what may well be a FAQ, and the same arguably applies here. They can't even read the existing thread from the last person who apparently had a stroke or something after he subscribed, losing all memory of the process, as well as the basic intelligence to reason where he might find unsubscribe instructions. So what's up with these people, anyway? Do they simply not even /care/ if they do it right? They obviously have the ability to follow that level of instructions or they'd not be subscribed in the first place, and it's unlikely ALL of them are stroke victims! Are they deliberately TRYING to look dumb? Maybe they just smoked too many mind altering drugs and it's now /permanently/ altered? So yeah, they do get a bit of fun poked at them. But along with that fun, they usually get the unsubscribe help they're apparently too dumb to find any of the /normal/ ways, or simply don't /care/ if they're bothering people by not following the easily available instructions. And if they don't care if they bother other subscribers, why should other subscribers care about poking a little fun their way even as they point them at the door? <shrug> -- Duncan - List replies preferred. No HTML msgs. "Every nonfree program has a lord, a master -- and if you use the program, he is your master." Richard Stallman