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From: Frank Peters <frank.peters@×××××××.net>
To: gentoo-amd64@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-amd64] Re: Can't Emerge Thunderbird-5.0/6.0
Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2011 05:52:35
Message-Id: 20110824015159.09ff4018.frank.peters@comcast.net
In Reply to: [gentoo-amd64] Re: Can't Emerge Thunderbird-5.0/6.0 by Duncan <1i5t5.duncan@cox.net>
1 On Wed, 24 Aug 2011 03:43:05 +0000 (UTC)
2 Duncan <1i5t5.duncan@×××.net> wrote:
3
4 >
5 > So I've been wondering what the rest of the story might be, and why
6 > people, at least non-Japanese (no offense, just that info's easier to
7 > absorb if it's not filtered thru google translate or the like), might
8 > prefer sylpheed to claws. If you could shed some light on either the
9 > difference in emphasis and split, or why you personally prefer sylpheed,
10 > I'd be quite interested. =:^)
11 >
12
13 When I first began using Linux, I tried a few of the console email clients
14 such as pine, mutt, and nmh. These programs were useful, but I really
15 preferred a GUI approach to composing and organizing, yet I also did
16 not want to lose the simplicity of the console clients. Sylpheed (the
17 name connotes "light weight" in Japanese) was the answer. It is graphical
18 without being bloated.
19
20 Sylpheed reminds me of a MS Windows email client called Pegasus, which has
21 a very similar style, ease, and functionality.
22
23 The Sylpheed web site describes its attractive attributes, I think, nicely:
24
25 # Simple, beautiful, and well-polished user interface
26 # Comfortable operationality which is built in detail
27 # Well-organized, easy-to-understand configuration
28 # Lightweight operation
29 # High reliability with one-mail-corresponding-to-one-file format
30
31 Sylpheed has undergone a lot of development over the years, but I really
32 haven't noticed. Email is a simple medium and my Sylpheed has always
33 been simply configured. I don't bother with any of the advanced features.
34
35 As I mentioned, if I need more complex functionality, such as certificates
36 or encryption, I can always use thunderbird which I keep in reserve, but
37 Sylpheed is my regular email workhorse.
38
39 I cannot comment on claws which I haven't used, but it is essentially
40 Sylpheed with a lot of extra features incorporated, and, again, it is
41 those features which I don't require.
42
43 In the end, preferences are based on philosophy and philosophy is based
44 on knowledge. I see, in my mind, every email message for what is is:
45 a string of text. Even MIME attachments, like images or sounds, are there
46 as text strings. I don't need, or prefer, a complex program to dissect
47 all the pieces and "magically" present them to me. It is somehow more
48 appealing to my digital sense to approach these things from a basic level
49 where nothing else will interpose itself. This is why I appreciate
50 software that does not attempt to "do it all" for me and to conceal the
51 details of the process. Others may find this strange, but to me it is
52 the only way.
53
54 In fact, there was a time when I sent email messages directly from the
55 command line using sendmail clones. The appeal to this was a complete
56 transparency of the process. However, this soon proved to be too much
57 of a burden. Sylpheed restores the ease, but it remains simple and
58 straightforward.
59
60
61 > > But there are times when I need to communicate to someone that is using
62 > > MS Outlook
63 >
64 > Argh! If they want to read my mail, they can very well read it in plain
65 > text,
66
67 I also often shriek when I have to deal with the average MS Outlook user.
68 These people don't even understand computers in the least, let alone
69 email. I could relate many horror stories about their antics, but
70 it really is not appropriate here. However, what peeves me the most
71 is that every MS Outlook user will invariably top post (it is the default
72 in Outlook), and top posting is taboo in email communication. But any
73 attempt at explanation of this is futile. The Outlook user has no comprehension
74 of top posting or any thing else about the email standard, and probably
75 believes that Outlook is the only email client that exists.
76
77 Frank Peters

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[gentoo-amd64] Re: Can't Emerge Thunderbird-5.0/6.0 Duncan <1i5t5.duncan@×××.net>