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On Sun, Apr 23, 2017 at 5:18 AM, Duncan <1i5t5.duncan@×××.net> wrote: |
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> Mark Knecht posted on Sat, 22 Apr 2017 11:38:59 -0700 as excerpted: |
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> > As for my wife's laptop which started this discussion I had an emerge 2 |
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> > weeks ago of about 200 packages, mostly KDE, which took almost 24 hours |
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> > to build on a 5-6 year old laptop.This time around I have about 175 |
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> > packages today. We'll see how long it takes as a data point but I've |
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> > decided to move her to Ubuntu. I think I need to be spending my time |
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> > more productively than building this much code this often. I already run |
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> > Ubuntu as a VM on my Gentoo machine due to apps not supported (or not |
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> > building correctly) by Gentoo in portage. Sad as it will be the first |
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> > non-Gentoo boot in my house in about 15 years. |
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> Is her laptop 64-bit or only 32-bit? Either way, how many other machines |
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> of similar bitness do you have around? (I'm presuming all x86 or amd64, |
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> no arm/mips/ppc/whatever.) |
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Her laptop is an 64-bit i7 Q740 processor @ 1.73G. 8GB DRAM, two |
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500MB drives. It was sold as a Gaming Laptop probably 5 years ago |
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I already keep the CPU and USE flags pretty similar. |
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I certainly could chroot a specific copy of Gentoo and build on my |
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machine. I might also be able to build binary packages on my fast |
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machine and then do an emerge -k type install and see if it works. |
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However, in the end how much do I gain for all that work vs installing |
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Kubuntu? The Gentoo portage overlay environment sort of comes and |
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goes depending on what overlay and how interested someone is in |
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supporting it. For my needs, and certainly for my wife's needs, Ubuntu |
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is supporting all the apps I need. I had problems with Handbrake on |
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Gentoo for over a year. No one fixed it. I created an Unbuntu VM |
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and just run it in there. Updating that VM is no more than 1-2 minutes |
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a week for the last few months. It does feel foreign compared to years |
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of running portage, but it works just fine. |
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I have this Ubuntu 64-bit VM and I have a 64-bit Gentoo VM on my big |
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machine. I cannot measure any real speed differences in the two VMs |
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so I doubt I'll see any big differences on her laptop, at least not such |
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that the wife would complain about it. It's more about that it boots up, |
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goes to the network and is easy to backup her data. She uses Chrome, |
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OpenOffice and not much else. |
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I've really not figured out the whole developer tools/kernel build process |
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on Ubuntu but if it was ever important I'm sure the info is out there. For |
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her machine it's a non-issue. For my big machine it would be more |
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important as I'm heavily RAID-ed but I'm not ready to dump Gentoo on |
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this box quite yet, but I think it's coming. I use Matlab with a lot of |
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NVidia |
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GPU coding and neither work perfectly on Gentoo. (But both are very |
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good.) |
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Anyway, I think the writing it on the wall. My machines are just tools |
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these days. Not so much into tinkering anymore with this stuff. |
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Thanks for the inputs. |
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Cheers, |
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Mark |