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Bob Young wrote: |
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> -----Original Message----- From: news [mailto:news@×××××××××.org]On |
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> Behalf Of Duncan Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2005 6:30 AM To: |
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> gentoo-amd64@l.g.o Subject: [gentoo-amd64] Re: gcc compile |
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> failed after 2005.1-r1 instalation |
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> Clemente Aguiar posted |
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> <6A0C419392D7BA45BD141D0BA4F253C78B26@×××××××××××××××××××××××××.pt>, |
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> excerpted below, on Thu, 08 Dec 2005 12:02:31 +0000: |
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>> How can I solve this problem?<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD |
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>> HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD><TITLE>Mensagem</TITLE> |
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> First, please turn off HTML. Many on FLOSS (Free, Libre, and Open |
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> Source Software) type lists consider HTML posts the mark of spammers |
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> and malware authors, and may kill filter it or simply refuse to |
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> reply. I reply, but I make it a point of asking folks to please turn |
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> it off, and may not reply (and indeed, killfile) future posts if the |
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> HTML remains. |
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> I know that many share this opinion, and although I don't want to |
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> start a flame war, I do think there are some valid counter points in |
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> favor of html. Everyone is of course free to filter content based on |
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> his or her own preferences. However most of the reasons given against |
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> posting html aren't really all that strong. In fact the only thing |
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> http://www.emailreplies.com/ suggests is that recipients "*might* |
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> only be able to receive plain text emails." It goes on to note: "Most |
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> email clients however... are able to receive HTML and rich text |
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> messages." It's pretty rare that a modern email client can't deal |
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> with html. I would argue that the very few desktops not using some |
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> flavor of GUI should not force a limiting "least common denominator" |
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> type policy. |
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yeah. lets get rid of the minorities. |
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> Even the two reasons listed in the above reply don't stand up very |
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> well to logical reasoning, it's obvious the OP was neither a spammer |
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> nor a malware author, filtering all html email on the basis of those |
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> two reasons alone is akin to throwing out the baby with the bath |
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> water. |
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> The other common reason given against html is storage space/bandwidth |
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> issues. This is a weak argument also; in cost per megabyte storage |
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> is dirt-cheap. Premium NNTP providers are advertising retention times |
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> of 90 days or more for large *binary* groups, where a single post can |
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> be several hundred megabytes. If a few extra Kbytes here or there in |
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> an email message is really causing a problem for someone, then an |
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> upgrade should probably be priority. Most messages are much larger |
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> than they need to be anyway because people don't trim quotes. |
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this is about private emails. emails in mailing lists should be short |
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and concise. i wonder what the big archive-sites think about this.. |
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> Lastly there are some things that are just easier to communicate in a |
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> html format, diagrams and tables come to mind, we've all seen ASCII |
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> diagrams of various things and had to stare at them trying to |
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> decipher what was the author actually trying to communicate. Even in |
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> a mostly text message, bold, italic, enlarged/reduced, or colored |
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> text used for emphasis or de-emphasis can make communication much |
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> more clear. In short I just think that there is this "knee-jerk" |
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> reaction to html email in the FLOSS community, and it isn't justified |
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> by an objective evaluation. |
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if you don´t like ascii graphics, then you don´t know the textmode quake |
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project ;-) |
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http://webpages.mr.net/bobz/ttyquake/ |
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> Must we be constrained to communicate with each other via nothing |
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> more sophisticated than plain text forever and ever? |
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read Wittgenstein. plain text and very sophisticated. |
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> Regards Bob Young |
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cheers, f |
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