Gentoo Archives: gentoo-amd64

From: Drake Donahue <donahue95@×××××××.net>
To: gentoo-amd64@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-amd64] Re: initio seen, mt -f doesn't work
Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2005 15:47:04
Message-Id: 001f01c604b3$3e41baf0$0200a8c0@donahues.us
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-amd64] Re: initio seen, mt -f doesn't work by Brett Johnson
1 usb2.0 external hard drive has to be feasible. less than a $100 for 80gb.
2 nominal 60MB/sec.
3 usb2.0\1394b external hard drive. less than $300 for 300 gb. nominal
4 60MB\80MB/sec.
5 ----- Original Message -----
6 From: "Brett Johnson" <brett@××××.com>
7 To: <gentoo-amd64@l.g.o>
8 Sent: Monday, December 19, 2005 9:28 AM
9 Subject: Re: [gentoo-amd64] Re: initio seen, mt -f doesn't work
10
11
12 > On Mon, Dec 19, 2005 at 10:23:56AM +0000, Gavin Seddon wrote:
13 >> The Fedora is 2.4 kernel which I will migrate to today and if this
14 >> doesn't solve my probs. I will swap my scsi controller. If I remove my
15 >> tape, what should I do with it? (don't be rude)
16 >>
17 >> I have been obsessed with backups since the time when I lost 2/3 of a
18 >> book and had to spend eternity recreating. Any 'better' removable
19 >> storage device suggestions are welcome. Bearing in mind it needs to
20 >> hold ~15Gb and a removable hd isn't feasible.
21 >> Gav.
22 >
23 > I am not sure what you're saying about migrating and removing the tape.
24 > If you mean you're going to install Fedora (2.4 kernel), then I would
25 > assume your tape drive will work fine. It appears that your scsi card is
26 > not fully supported in the 2.5/2.6 kernel.
27 >
28 > If you're looking for alternate solutions to use with gentoo/2.6 kernel,
29 > then I would suggest investing in a new scsi card. The tape drive and
30 > cable should be fine (assuming proper maintenance of the tape drive).
31 >
32 > I personally have moved away from tape for smaller data sets ( < 100GB
33 > ), as tape has some issues. First, you need to keep the tape head clean
34 > and second tape media has a limited useful life span. I have been
35 > burned a couple times by defective tape media in a restore situation.
36 >
37 > If an external hard drive is out, how about removeable hard drives?
38 > Remeber, the point of a backup is just to keep the data in multiple
39 > places. You can easily add a removeable drive cage to a system and
40 > purchase a couple extra caddy's. This way you can alternate between 2
41 > or 3 removable hard drives for backup devices. Some removeable trays
42 > support key locks, in case you're worried about physical security.
43 >
44 > The method I use is the dar program in conjunction with cdrecord-prodvd.
45 > I create a full backup monthly, then create a weekly incremental against
46 > the full backup, and then daily backups against the weekly. This method
47 > only requires me to burn multiple dvd's once a month (as my monthly
48 > backup is in excess of 20GB). After that, I get away with one extra dvd
49 > per month (ymmv). For a recovery scenario, I may have to go through
50 > multiple restores to bring the system current, but thats a trade off I
51 > make to save on media.
52 >
53 > Those are just a few ideas. There are many other ways to backup data. I
54 > believe there is even an online service you can sign up for, and back up
55 > to their servers. IIRC you pay by the backup size in 10GB increments.
56 >
57 > Backup solutions are unique to each enviroment and use.
58 > Things to consider are; hard costs of backup hardware and media, time
59 > required to perform backup and does data have to be taken offline, ease
60 > and automation of backup, time required to restore data, ease and
61 > automation of restore, and physical storage of backup media (it doesn't
62 > do you any good to keep all your backups in the same building as the data
63 > if the building burns down). I am sure there are other factors too, this
64 > is just to give you an idea of things to think about when trying to
65 > come up with a new backup solution.
66 >
67 > Brett
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71 >
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Replies

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Re: [gentoo-amd64] Re: initio seen, mt -f doesn't work Gavin Seddon <gavin.m.seddon@×××××××××××××.uk>
Re: [gentoo-amd64] Re: initio seen, mt -f doesn't work Richard Fish <bigfish@××××××××××.org>