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On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 12:49 AM, Frank Peters <frank.peters@×××××××.net> wrote: |
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> On Mon, 22 Sep 2014 23:48:46 -0500 |
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> Canek Peláez Valdés <caneko@×××××.com> wrote: |
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>> I just said that this thread has *seriously* lacked on technical |
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>> arguments. I haven't made almost any technical argument, because |
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>> basically all the discussion has been around conspiracy theories |
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>> *You* call *that* "a reasonable discussion of technical issues"? |
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> Any *good* programmer realizes that programming is not at all |
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> about writing code. The foremost tasks of a good programmer |
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> are problem analysis, planning, and understanding both the overall |
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> scheme and ramifications of any proposed solution. Once these |
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> tasks are accomplished the actual coding, which is a relatively |
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> trivial matter, can begin. |
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http://0pointer.net/blog/projects/systemd.html |
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You may not agree with the points presented there, but there was |
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*ample* "analysis, planning, and understanding of the overall scheme |
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and ramifications" of the "proposed solution" (systemd in this case) |
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before a single line of core was written. |
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And then they also wrote the code. |
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> Therefore it is not unreasonable or unproductive to approach |
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> the systemd issue from a political or philosophical perspective. |
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I will just answer: code talks. |
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> But having said that, I will admit that this thread has served |
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> its purpose for me. My concerns about systemd have been addressed |
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> and my fears have been calmed by the responses. I want to thank |
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> all those who participated. |
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You are welcome. |
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> However, I do remain cautiously optimistic. Anyone who understands |
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> the human world knows all too well that idealistic causes do not |
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> persist for long. I am sometimes surprised at the longevity of |
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> Linux as a free and open project, but I realize that in time it too shall |
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> succumb to the social forces that have destroyed similar endeavors. |
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> I can only hope that the time will be long in coming. |
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Again, code talks. And Linux is not idealistic at all; I believe Linus |
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and his lieutenants would laugh at the notion that it is. |
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Linux is a technological triumph, created, maintained and evolved by |
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highly technically qualified people. Idealism had nothing to do with |
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it; contrary to GNU/Hurd, the GPL-2 license was chosen because it was |
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the best choice for technical reasons (highly collaborative project |
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over the Internet). And because idealism has nothing to do with it, it |
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didn't switched over to GPL-3. |
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Regards. |
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Canek Peláez Valdés |
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Profesor de asignatura, Facultad de Ciencias |
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Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México |