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From: Duncan <1i5t5.duncan@×××.net>
To: gentoo-amd64@l.g.o
Subject: [gentoo-amd64] Re: Wine with no-multilib on AMD64
Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2010 01:04:47
Message-Id: pan.2010.03.14.00.34.36@cox.net
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-amd64] Re: Wine with no-multilib on AMD64 by Volker Armin Hemmann
1 Volker Armin Hemmann posted on Sun, 14 Mar 2010 00:27:20 +0100 as
2 excerpted:
3
4 > so you wasted a lot of space. For what benefit again?
5
6 What, you can't even read? In the same message you quoted part of, I
7 explained why -- I build my (32-bit only) netbook image in that chroot, on
8 my main machine. I then rsync the completely build and configured image
9 to my netbook, thus allowing me to run Gentoo on the netbook without
10 having to actually /build/ Gentoo on the netbook.
11
12 > And - because you seem to lack some understanding. There is no 'dirtying
13 > up'. So please, keep your dubios advise down. Chrooting just to be able
14 > to run an app is not a good choice, if a few mb of 32bit libs, residing
15 > in /usr/lib32 would be all that is needed.
16
17 Well, depending on what you consider dirtying it up. If you consider
18 unnecessarily installing a somewhat brittle dual-bitness toolchain that
19 has an annoying tendency to have the 32-bit side break at times "dirtying
20 up", if you consider it installing only generically optimized 32-bit
21 binary-only emul-linux libraries "dirtying up", then yes, it's definitely
22 "dirtying up". Certainly so as opposed to a separate full 32-bit chroot,
23 thus allowing the 64-bit side to stay clean 64-bit (no brittle dual-
24 bitness toolchain), and no compromise only generic optimizations binary
25 emul-linux libraries.
26
27 Now a 32-bit chroot is definitely more work than standard multilib, but
28 it's also definitely cleaner, and from personal experience, less brittle.
29 It's also far more flexible. Whether it's worth the tradeoff is for an
30 individual to decide.
31
32 I was simply posting that the 32-bit chroot thing is possible with
33 no-multilib, something that's poorly documented, so some people might not
34 realize it's even possible. (They may think that multilib is required for
35 it.)
36
37 --
38 Duncan - List replies preferred. No HTML msgs.
39 "Every nonfree program has a lord, a master --
40 and if you use the program, he is your master." Richard Stallman

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[gentoo-amd64] Re: Wine with no-multilib on AMD64 Nikos Chantziaras <realnc@×××××.de>