Re: [gentoo-amd64] Re: Anyone tried xorg-server-1.2.99.901?

[B. Nice]

I recently had to revert back to xorg-server  1.2.0-r1 to regain the
ability to use gnome-terminal (or any terminal in gnome)  In my case the
system was still rock solid, but the terminals just disappeared, and
would not re-appear using any of the icons/menus.  I didn't (still
don't) know how to use a virtual terminal(Ctrl-Alt-F1-F6) to open a
window in the X terminal so, reverted it went.

Wish I could offer more assistance.



On Sat, 2007-03-17 at 07:14 -0700, Wil Reichert wrote:
> > I run KDE here, don't even have GNOME installed as for me as a power
> > user, GNOME's dumb-down-everything-by-removing-most-choices-as-too-
> > complex policy drives me right up one wall and down the other!  (I'm with
> > Linus on that one, it seems!)  I'm running kwin, with composite
> > functionality enabled (only window semi-transparency, not the other
> > stuff) as I mentioned above.
> Never could get over the UI, didn't seem intuitive to me for whatever
> reason.  Been following KDE 4 development, look pretty spiffy.
> Probably give it a shot again once it goes alpha.  Could be mistaken
> but it almost seems like the gnome folk are more concerned about their
> release schedule than innovating new features.
>
> > Anyway, this build doesn't have the patches applied, and exa works fine
> > once again.
> I think an exa update was one of the main additions in 1.3, the other
> being the randr 1.2 code.
>
> > If you've not already done so and the lack of gnome-terminal is serious
> > for you, of course there are quite a few other alternatives, xterm being
> > the generic one, naturally.
> >
> > Thinking about your bug, perhaps you have the reverse problem to mine, as
> > konsole (compare to gnome-terminal) did run here but as I said, with
> > issues (blanking and the like).  You might dig out the AIGLX patches from
> > 1.2.0-r1 and see if they still apply cleanly to 1.2.99.901.  If they do,
> > try that and see if your problem still exists.  Take a look at the ebuild
> > but I /think/ all you have to do is list the appropriate patches in a
> > PATCHES= line, copying the ones from the line in the ~arch version
> > to .901 in your overlay.  A single bit of editing, not too hard.  (I was
> > going to try building without those patches here, but never got around to
> > it before seeing your post mentioning the new version, so tried it
> > instead.)
> >
> > If that fixes your problem, then it's likely those patches may have to be
> > hooked to a USE flag of some sort, so people can apply them or not
> > depending on the hardware and software they run.
> >
> > Something else that /might/ be worth trying.  Enable (or disable, if you
> > have it enabled) USE=xcb, and do an emerge -N world to rebuild anything
> > using that flag.  xcb is a new and lighter alternative to Xlib.  Xlib can
> > render to it for anything not yet migrated to xcb yet, and that's what
> > most X clients are using if xcb is enabled at this point, xlib thru xcb.
> >
> > I decided to try enabling it at the same time I upgraded to xorg-server
> > 1.2.99.901, and one of the things that got rebuilt as a result was cairo,
> > which of course is what GTK+ now uses for rendering, and GNOME of course
> > in turn uses GTK+. (I do have GTK+ merged, as a pan dependency, but no
> > GNOME.)
> >
> > What I'm thinking is that xcb might bypass whatever issue you are having,
> > particularly if it's a deprecated xlib call that's no longer working,
> > since xcb is newer and presumably written with AIGLX and similar new
> > technologies in mind, where xlib has a lot of compatibility cruft left
> > over from long ago versions.  I've seen the difference that makes in xaa/
> > exa, xlib/xcb could well make a similar difference.
> >
> > So anyway, please update if you try any of the suggestions above, whether
> > or not they work, or if you get it working again otherwise.  I'm always
> > interested in finding out if my guesses were correct or not, as it's very
> > useful info the next time something similar comes up.
>
> A couple of emerge -e world's later....
>
> metacity - gnome-terminal starts fine, <CTRL><SHIFT>T creates a new tab
> beryl - gnome-terminal starts fine, <CTRL><SHIFT>T crashes it as before
>
> I'll chalk this one up to either stupidity on my part or the beryl svn
> code I'm using is conflicting with the new driver / server code.  No
> big, some breakage is to be expected running ~arch & live code.  FWIW,
> I'm using XAA and have xcb enabled.  EXA makes little difference on my
> system, haven't had a chance to see what recompiling w/out xcb will
> do.  The next rc build should be hitting portage soon, I'll probably
> just wait & see if that does some magic.  Or breaks more stuff =)
>
> Wil
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