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From: Lie Ryan <lie.1296@×××××.com>
To: gentoo-amd64@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-amd64] Why Is Gentoo So Far Behind?
Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2009 05:13:56
Message-Id: 4A3729F4.8040901@gmail.com
In Reply to: [gentoo-amd64] Why Is Gentoo So Far Behind? by Frank Peters
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4 Frank Peters wrote:
5 > In a lot of cases, for example perl, Xorg, and gcc, the Gentoo
6 > distribution lags far behind the latest available releases.
7 > Even allowing the "~amd64" unstable series, this remains true.
8 > Why is this so?
9 >
10 > I had first considered moving to Gentoo in the fall of 2008,
11 > but after noticing that the only version of gcc available at
12 > that time was gcc-3.x, I postponed the change. In the spring
13 > of 2009, Gentoo finally moved up to gcc-4.3.x and then I made
14 > the transition. But the update to the 4.3 series was a long time
15 > in coming.
16 >
17 > The latest perl, released some time ago, is version 5.10 but
18 > Gentoo includes only 5.8.8.
19 >
20 > The latest Xorg has restructured certain libxcb dependencies,
21 > which has caused a lot of problems for a lot of packages,
22 > and Gentoo is behind these changes as well.
23 >
24 > (Ironically, it was this libxcb issue as well as the whole Xorg
25 > modularity mess that first motivated me to seek out Gentoo.)
26 >
27 > Now I am not actually voicing a complaint. Gentoo, IMO, is still
28 > the best distribution for Linux. I am just wondering why there
29 > is such a great lag before a package version is deemed stable -- or
30 > even unstable. In my experience with maintaining my own Linux system,
31 > I never had any great issues with always installing the latest "bleeding"
32 > edge software.
33 >
34 > Frank Peters
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36 For inclusion to stable portage tree, I think a year or two is nothing
37 to be concerned of. If you need the most bleeding edge version, there is
38 nothing to stop you from installing the package yourself directly from
39 upstream. In most cases, unless you used a specific package extensively
40 AND is having problems with the supplied package AND you know a more
41 recent version fixes the problem, you don't really need the newest
42 version. If you met all those conditions, the mess of manual install
43 would be worthwhile.
44
45 If you're one of the people that wants to be on the bleeding edge, just
46 because; then you should really become a tester.
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