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From: Duncan <1i5t5.duncan@×××.net>
To: gentoo-amd64@l.g.o
Subject: [gentoo-amd64] Re: Re: Dual Head
Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2006 17:17:34
Message-Id: e95urr$ddl$1@sea.gmane.org
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-amd64] Re: Dual Head by Mark Knecht
1 "Mark Knecht" <markknecht@×××××.com> posted
2 5bdc1c8b0607130650x3cf6fc75uda0f52077548b26a@××××××××××.com, excerpted
3 below, on Thu, 13 Jul 2006 06:50:48 -0700:
4
5 > On 7/13/06, Duncan <1i5t5.duncan@×××.net> wrote:
6 >> [] slaveryware [] freedomware []
7 >
8 > Must we use such charged language around here?
9
10 My choice of words is a reflection of who I am, how I define myself after
11 certain experiences, therefore, part of my terminology, therefore, part of
12 my posts. I believe the quote in my sig, and if one is subject to a
13 master, what does that make them, other than a slave?
14
15 Let me ask you this. If you had been in a country where your freedom was
16 extremely limited and you had either spent time in prison for your beliefs
17 or knew personally those that had, then had escaped/defected to a new
18 country and a new life of freedom, leaving your old life and many friends
19 and loved ones behind to start anew... knowing you could never legally go
20 back on pain of life imprisonment or worse, unless the regime changed and
21 with that came freedom...
22
23 If in your new country you appreciated your freedoms, your new life, yet
24 still having friends left behind in the old that you'd like to bring over
25 to share your joy and save them from the oppression...
26
27 That's EXACTLY how I feel about proprietaryware vs FLOSS. It is to me
28 very literally /slaveryware/, an entirely different world, now rejected
29 and left behind for the new world of freedom software. As with many
30 defectors, I had a decent life before, a full decade of familiarity with a
31 particular slaveryware platform, but it wasn't /free/. As with many
32 defectors, I left friends and loved ones behind that I'd like to see make
33 the move as well. As with many defectors, the old life is now lost to me,
34 a bad dream, before the change. I can only shudder looking back at it, a
35 great sacrifice, but so well worth it no words can describe!
36
37 I've had this discussion before. Someone whose ancestors were apparently
38 enslaved took some offense. He didn't understand what it meant to me, and
39 that I chose the words deliberately, /because/ they had the meaning they
40 did. I asked him if he was willing to be imprisoned or even die for the
41 concept of free software if it came to that. He wasn't, saying it's only
42 software. I expect that's probably your take on things as well. For me,
43 it's much more serious. It really /is/ a struggle for freedom, and as
44 many fighting that struggle round the world, I've sacrificed and know I
45 may be called upon to sacrifice more. Would I die defending free software?
46 I'm not sure I can honestly say I would, at this point. However, I *DO*
47 say that I believe I /should/ be willing to die for it. After all, it
48 /is/ freedom we are talking here.
49
50 Thus it is with deliberate certainty I choose and use those words, doing
51 so in the knowledge that freedom does have a cost, asserting by my choice
52 of wording that I am willing to pay a cost, tho I cannot be certain if I'd
53 be willing to pay the ultimate cost.
54
55 OTOH, my choice of wording reflects my own journey. I do not demand nor
56 expect others to be at the same point in their own, or even on the same
57 journey. Slaveryware vs freedomware is what it is to /me/. As with the
58 defector looking back at those he left behind, I realize they must make
59 and are making their own choices.
60
61 IOW, it's a personal thing. I accept that it may not be slaveryware to
62 you, but to me it is, and I call it as I see it in posts I make, or I
63 don't make those posts. You may of course do the same in your posts. As
64 well, I've always believed in the absolute right to kill file, no reason
65 or notice need be given, tho it often is. Should my choice of words be
66 offensive enough to you, you may of course choose not to see them.
67
68 --
69 Duncan - List replies preferred. No HTML msgs.
70 "Every nonfree program has a lord, a master --
71 and if you use the program, he is your master." Richard Stallman
72
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