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From: Duncan <1i5t5.duncan@×××.net>
To: gentoo-amd64@l.g.o
Subject: [gentoo-amd64] Re: install amarok??
Date: Thu, 13 May 2010 13:02:32
Message-Id: pan.2010.05.13.12.30.06@cox.net
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-amd64] install amarok?? by Barry Schwartz
1 Barry Schwartz posted on Wed, 12 May 2010 16:18:57 -0500 as excerpted:
2
3 > [...] on account of Amarok. [...] I myself would have been reluctant
4 > to tie my software to anything as cumbering as mysql.
5
6 This isn't a solution for everyone, YMMV, etc, particularly for those who
7 actually use all the Amarok fancy features, but for me, most of them were
8 just bloat, and when amarok decided to go with a mysql feature that at the
9 time didn't even work properly on amd64, I decided it was time I find a
10 less bloated and complicated to keep working music player. Again, YMMV.
11
12 I ended up choosing mpd, music player daemon, here, because it has all
13 sorts of front ends, including command line, ncurses, gtk, qt (both 3 and
14 4), kde, even a web based front-end so you can control it remotely. I
15 didn't use all those but did merge mpc (command line), the two ncurses
16 frontends, and qmpdclient (qt4), as well as mpd itself. At the time I was
17 still running qt3/kde3, so I merged one for that too, but of course it's
18 now unmerged.
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20 Basically I traded a bunch of features I didn't use anyway, plus the kde3
21 amarok visualizations which I still miss but which the kde4 version didn't
22 have at the time anyway, for a **MUCH** simpler and less troublesome to
23 maintain install, and a player that can be started at bootup and
24 controlled from the command line if desired, regardless of whether X is
25 running or not.
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27 There were a couple other more traditional ncurses based players I looked
28 at too, with the idea of killing the X dependency. If I hadn't decided on
29 mpd due to its multiple front-ends, I'd have likely chosen one of those,
30 and simply run it from a VC or a konsole window. One of them even offered
31 a disconnectable control interface, so I could have started it in a
32 konsole window, then shut down the controller, konsole, KDE and X, and had
33 it still playing. That was the runner-up to mpd. But mpd by virtue of
34 its front-end and daemon design did that too, plus had multiple front-ends
35 to choose from including graphical ones if I was running X, so that's what
36 I chose.
37
38 So anyway, what I'm saying is that there /are/ alternatives to amarok.
39 They may be worth considering, particularly if you're not using all the
40 fancy amarok features anyway. They are CERTAINLY less complex and
41 therefore less trouble to keep "just working". But if you're using all
42 the fancy amarok features, particularly the database backed ones, it may
43 very well be worth the hassle of keeping it working, to continue to use
44 those features. Your computer, your music, your decision. =:^) Just be
45 aware that amarok isn't the only player out there, and don't artificially
46 constrain your choices. No use going to all the repeated hassle of
47 keeping it working, if you're not using the fancy features that make it so
48 complex and hard to keep working in the first place.
49
50 --
51 Duncan - List replies preferred. No HTML msgs.
52 "Every nonfree program has a lord, a master --
53 and if you use the program, he is your master." Richard Stallman