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From: felix@×××××××.com
To: gentoo-amd64@l.g.o
Subject: [gentoo-amd64] Seamonkey vs Mozilla: pointless cage match
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2006 03:16:18
Message-Id: 20061115030638.GA5341@crowfix.com
In Reply to: [gentoo-amd64] New ATI proprietary driver by Chris Traylor
1 I have a ~amd64 system on which I am trying to emerge world.
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3 First, what are the proper options to pass to this command? Several
4 packages will not compile, and Duncan has suggested an emerge world to
5 clean things up. Well, right now is a good time for me ...
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7 Second, when I try emever -pve world, I get the following complaints:
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9 Calculating world dependencies
10 ..... ..... ..... ..... ..... ..... ..... ..... ..... ..... ... done!
11 [blocks B ] kde-base/kde-env (is blocking kde-base/kdelibs-3.5.5-r5)
12 [blocks B ] >=kde-base/kdelibs-3.5.4-r2 (is blocking kde-base/kde-env-3-r4)
13 [blocks B ] www-client/mozilla (is blocking www-client/seamonkey-1.0.6)
14 [blocks B ] <dev-python/pygtk-2.9 (is blocking dev-python/pygobject-2.12.2)
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16 1. What's the scoop on kde-env vs kdelibs?
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18 2. Ditto for pygtk vs pygobject.
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20 This happens aperiodically. Some new package obsoletes another
21 package, but nothing documents it, nothing tells me what to do. Do I
22 unmerge the existing package and install the new one? My experience
23 has been mixed. Sometimes I can unmerge the old package, emerge the
24 new package, and then re-emerge the old package ... and everything is
25 happy from the on. Other times there are some old packages which
26 still want the old package, other old packages want the new package,
27 and they can't coexist.
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29 Then we come to the real annoyance,
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31 3. Mozilla vs Seamonkey. I tried Seamonkey a couple of times, and it
32 crashed so often and so quickly that I reverted to mozilla. Now it
33 seems there are quite a few packages which insist on seamonkey and
34 are not satisfied with mozilla.
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36 I use firefox, but I also use mozilla. Mozilla has a better config
37 interface to my tastes. I may try seamonkey again someday, but
38 right now, I don't want seamonkey.
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40 Why do some packages explicitly care about seamonkey? Shouldn't
41 they be pretty much the same? Shouldn't the dependencies be happy
42 with either one?
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44 In the meantime, is there some way to convince emerge that
45 seamonkey has been installed and to not get its knickers in a
46 twist? I suppose I could always unmerge mozilla, emerge world,
47 unmerge seamonkey, and emerge mozilla again, but I get tired of
48 having to kick out half a dozen packages like totem, gedit,
49 gnome-base, epiphany, etc from the ordinary updates just to get
50 them working.
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